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    Ford Explorer's RWD changes everything

    2020 Ford Explorer's new RWD changes everything for the better

    Mark Phelan, Detroit Free Press Published 6:00 a.m. ET June 18, 2019 | Updated 10:32 a.m. ET June 18, 2019

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    SKAMANIA COUNTY, Washington – Hypesters and hucksters have drained the term “clean sheet of paper” of much meaning when it comes to new products, but it applies to the 2020 Ford Explorer SUV.

    Ford has scrapped the formula that made the three-row, family-carrying Explorer one of its most popular models for a decade and created an SUV whose engineering has more in common with vehicles from BMW and Mercedes than traditional competitors from Chevrolet, Honda and Toyota.

    Based on a couple of days driving on- and off-road in Oregon and Washington, the result is a comfortable interior, strong performance and appealing features.

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    The 2020 Explorer should be on sale any day now. Ford’s assembly plant in Chicago is shipping them to dealers, but Ford can’t sell them until it gets a certified fuel economy rating from the EPA.
    A change in drive and engine direction

    The new Explorer has a rear-wheel-drive-based architecture and optional all-wheel drive. That’s a major change from the outgoing model, which had base models that were front-wheel-drive and optional AWD.

    That means the 2020 model’s engine lines up in the same direction as the vehicle, while the 2010-19 Explorer engines sat crosswise, on the line between the front wheels.

    In engineering terms, the 2020’s engine is called “longitudinal” or “north-south,” while the old Explorer had a transverse or east-west engine.
    Why the change?

    Pickups, and most luxury and performance vehicles, tend to have longitudinal engines because the layout lends itself to more power, better handling and towing.

    Power and handling haven’t been a big deal to Explorer owners, but Ford is betting that’ll change as more and more SUVs crowd the market and automakers look for every advantage they can claim when they say theirs is different and better.

    Features and prices

    Here’s some of what you can expect from the 2020 Ford Explorer:

    Seating for six or seven.
    Prices from $32,765 to $58,250. The base model isn’t expected to go on sale til December, though. At launch, price will start at $36,675, excluding destination charges.
    Up to 5,600 pounds towing.
    A base 300-horsepower, 2.3L turbocharged four-cylinder engine.
    360- and 400-hp twin-turbo V6s in the Platinum and ST, respectively.
    A hybrid with 310 hp and a battery under its floor to preserve passenger and cargo space. There’s no immediate plan for a plug-in hybrid.
    A 10-speed automatic transmission.

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    Re: Ford Explorer's RWD changes everything

    I think it will do well.

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    Re: Ford Explorer's RWD changes everything

    But...RWD doesn't change it's ugly *** face:



    It looks like someone measured the concept headlights incorrectly and it was only realized after they were already mass produced. So the lead designer said **** it and pinched in the grille to make them fit.
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    Re: Ford Explorer's RWD changes everything

    I think it's one of the better looking big utes around. It wears its cop car uniform well. RWD will only make it more attractive to PDs around the country. Lots of Explorer cop cars in my area.
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    Re: Ford Explorer's RWD changes everything

    Quote Originally Posted by Neanderthal View Post
    RWD will only make it more attractive to PDs around the country.
    This x1000, between the new Explorer and the new Durango PPV, Tahoe PPV sales are going to take a huge hit. Loss of Impala means no PD sales for GM soon if they don't do something like 5 years ago!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDiablo View Post
    This x1000, between the new Explorer and the new Durango PPV, Tahoe PPV sales are going to take a huge hit. Loss of Impala means no PD sales for GM soon if they don't do something like 5 years ago!!!!
    The last Impala copper car I saw was the last gen before Impy got all swoopy and stuff. Chargers and Taurii in my neck of the woods.
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    Re: Ford Explorer's RWD changes everything

    Quote Originally Posted by Neanderthal View Post
    The last Impala copper car I saw was the last gen before Impy got all swoopy and stuff. Chargers and Taurii in my neck of the woods.
    It appears the new one isn't offered in PPV form.

    For the first time, police fleets can acquire a V-6 Impala for use as a detective car, command car, or undercover unit. And the vehicle can operate with the E-85 ethanol fuel blend. GM expects to see it used outside of police fleets in state motor pools and universities.
    They've decided to go all in on one very outdated basket...

    While it may seem surprising that GM will no longer offer a pursuit-rated sedan, the automaker's strategy acknowledges the shift toward SUVs that has shaped the overall automotive market in recent years.
    Which is fine, as Ford has dumped the sedan as well, but as I said before Explorer and Durango are going to clean up at all the PD test days. Tahoe only offers larger cargo space, by a small margin, this won't be enough to overcome the other's advantages.
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    Re: Ford Explorer's RWD changes everything

    All I see for Police Duty is Chargers, Tahoes, and Explorers.
    IF IT AINT RWD; AND A CHEVY I DONT RIDE IT!!!!!

    ALL CHEVY'S NEED TO BE RWD!!!!!

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    I really like this new explorer. Love the side detailing. Only negs for me is that tacked on info screen, taillights and not being able to leave a child seat in the second row and move the seat for accessibility to third row as in Traverse and Enclave. That’s a big goof on a family hauler.

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    Re: Ford Explorer's RWD changes everything

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDiablo View Post
    This x1000, between the new Explorer and the new Durango PPV, Tahoe PPV sales are going to take a huge hit. Loss of Impala means no PD sales for GM soon if they don't do something like 5 years ago!!!!
    I know the Durango PPV is relatively new to the market, but I certainly haven't seen a one. The FWD Explorer unit is the defacto new millennium Crown Vic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoStopN View Post
    I know the Durango PPV is relatively new to the market, but I certainly haven't seen a one. The FWD Explorer unit is the defacto new millennium Crown Vic.
    I saw my first one yesterday when I was at the DMV, that town's PD station is one block away. I bet it will start replacing Chargers real quick as they age out.
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    It would seem like an odd decision by Dodge. We know that there will be a next gen Charger. I wouldn't be surprised if the Explorer is now so popular that Charger police car sales are sinking.
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    I hope Ford has made the right decision. Sales of the Explorer really took off when it went to FWD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by megeebee View Post
    I hope Ford has made the right decision. Sales of the Explorer really took off when it went to FWD.
    I do too. I like what they have done with it in this change over but I also liked the previous one a lot. It's too bad they couldn't have reached a happy medium(and not some gay clarivoiant ) somewhere and had both somehow.

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    Re: Ford Explorer's RWD changes everything

    This is interesting:
    https://www.michigan.gov/documents/m...k_639203_7.pdf

    Chargers use 5A, Durangos use 8A.
    Ford calls them Police Interceptor Utility and Hybrid Sedan. And F150.

    The locals just got two very black undercover/unmarked units, a Taurus and a Explorer. Very black, one spotlight, hard to pick out at first and normal civilians would probably not notice them. Subtle.
    We have a black cat, and unlike the others she can hide in plain sight, day or night.

    I'll have to spend some time with that report.
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