Ford backs off Cybertruck tug-of-war rematch, Musk doing it anyway

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    Ford backs off Cybertruck tug-of-war rematch, Musk doing it anyway

    Apparently, it isn't brung.

    Ford executive Sunny Madra tweeted a challenge to Tesla CEO Elon Musk on Monday for a rematch of a tug-of-war Tesla conducted between its electric Cybertruck and an F-150 that has been criticized by many, including Neil deGrasse Tyson [an American astrophysicist], for being unfairly matched, to which Elon Musk replied: "Bring it on".

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    However, when asked if Tesla had reached out to Ford to set up a competition, a Ford spokeswoman said "Sunny’s tweet was tongue in cheek to point out the absurdity of Tesla’s video, nothing more."
    Nevertheless, Musk agreed to do right by deGrasse Tyson's suggestion that the heavier weight of the battery-powered Cybertruck gave it a traction advantage and that Musk should level the playing field and repeat the test.
    Musk replied, "agreed, will be exciting to see!" He also promised to webcast the do-over live, possibly as early as next week.
    Ford may have backed out of a rematch but Elon stated he is going through with their request anyway (be careful what you wish for!). If it happens, I'd still put my money on the Cybertruck in a tug-of-war. This whole thing about adding weight to the Ford seems to be tilting the scales a bit as some truck owners do tow with unladen beds (so that traction advantage will be inherent to electric models).

    However, to be fair next round, it seems to me the playing field should literally be "leveled". I'm no astrophysicist (so I could be wrong here) but pulling uphill would seem to have given the Cybertruck an even greater advantage with regard to traction—even though it was presented as a detriment. Also, both trucks need to be clearly stated as being either four- or two-wheel-drive (the Ford was clearly RWD-only while I'm not certain how many wheels were motivating the Tesla in the initial competition).

    For the record, I see this as less of a Tesla vs Ford competition as it is electric vs ICE. The other big names would fare the same so I think Ford would have been better off making that clear and reiterating their future electric plans.

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    Re: Ford backs off Cybertruck tug-of-war rematch, Musk doing it anyway

    Is the Ford the new John Henry?
    I would think a diesel Superduty 4x4 could handle this job, though.
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    Re: Ford backs off Cybertruck tug-of-war rematch, Musk doing it anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by eaton53 View Post
    Is the Ford the new John Henry?
    I would think a diesel Superduty 4x4 could handle this job, though.
    It would at least have the low-end grunt to do the job. Traction seems to be the bigger determining factor though. I'd make sure the all-terrain tires are ditched for something like this...
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    Re: Ford backs off Cybertruck tug-of-war rematch, Musk doing it anyway

    It was an obviously cheezeball test. Here's a good vid on the physics of why, by a pro-Tesla reviewer.

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    Re: Ford backs off Cybertruck tug-of-war rematch, Musk doing it anyway

    Tesla rules.

    But then again does any of this matter?
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    Re: Ford backs off Cybertruck tug-of-war rematch, Musk doing it anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by JBsZ06 View Post
    Tesla rules.

    But then again does any of this matter?
    Only to a certain few. It looked good on film but really, who cares.

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    Re: Ford backs off Cybertruck tug-of-war rematch, Musk doing it anyway

    Ha Ha - Tesla has Ford running scared.

    The media has been reporting that Tesla has received about 200,000 pre-orders for this truck. The media also reported that Ford has announced the upcoming Mustang Mach-E high-end model (GT?) has been sold out - but they won’t release the numbers. They stated the sales restriction is due to battery constraint.

    EDIT: After reading some more news coverage, the Mustang Mach-E edition that sold-out is the “First Edition” - but ford won’t reveal the numbers.
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    Re: Ford backs off Cybertruck tug-of-war rematch, Musk doing it anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by JBsZ06 View Post
    Tesla rules.

    But then again does any of this matter?


    Mr. Musk and Tesla have gotten a million dollars worth of free advertising with the launch of the new truck.

    Ford and GM would love to get that much free advertising and get people talking more about their trucks.

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    Re: Ford backs off Cybertruck tug-of-war rematch, Musk doing it anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by eaton53 View Post
    Is the Ford the new John Henry?
    I would think a diesel Superduty 4x4 could handle this job, though.
    Drag slicks on all four is the way I'd go.

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    Tesla rules.

    But then again does any of this matter?
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    Re: Ford backs off Cybertruck tug-of-war rematch, Musk doing it anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by 1999 White C5 Coupe View Post
    Mr. Musk and Tesla have gotten a million dollars worth of free advertising with the launch of the new truck.

    Ford and GM would love to get that much free advertising and get people talking more about their trucks.
    I think they’ll be happy to settle for people actually buying their trucks, and by the time it gets to market there will be 3-4 EV truck competitors. Stainless steel is going to suck purely from an aesthetic standpoint. Tesla probably went that route to save money on painting them. The same is likely true of the origami styling, or more accurately the lack of styling.

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    Re: Ford backs off Cybertruck tug-of-war rematch, Musk doing it anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by 1999 White C5 Coupe View Post
    Ha Ha - Tesla has Ford running scared.

    The media has been reporting that Tesla has received about 200,000 pre-orders for this truck. The media also reported that Ford has announced the upcoming Mustang Mach-E high-end model (GT?) has been sold out - but they won’t release the numbers. They stated the sales restriction is due to battery constraint.

    EDIT: After reading some more news coverage, the Mustang Mach-E edition that sold-out is the “First Edition” - but ford won’t reveal the numbers.
    The Cybertruck has a whopping $100 dollar deposit requirement. let’s see how many of those deposits will get converted to actual sales.

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    Re: Ford backs off Cybertruck tug-of-war rematch, Musk doing it anyway

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    F-150 is RWD **with no payload** then weight on the Rear Axle is greatly reduced, offering only mild traction for the Tesla to overcome. This contest is more about the Physics of Friction than Engine Power.
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    Re: Ford backs off Cybertruck tug-of-war rematch, Musk doing it anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by SKH View Post
    The Cybertruck has a whopping $100 dollar deposit requirement. let’s see how many of those deposits will get converted to actual sales.
    And the deposit is fully refundable. In other words, it means next to nothing.

    As for a tug-of-war. Coming from a heavy 4wheeling background, a tug-of-war is stupid. As some have stated, it is a traction test. In other words, you could have the origami truck against pretty much anything, and if you have the other vehicle rwd only, it will lose. 500lb ft, or 1000lb ft. Also, even in 4wd, if the front axle is open, it will spin one............... so you will only have 3wd. With a motor on every wheel, all 4 will turn all of the time.

    Basically, it is a publicity stunt. People with too much testosterone used to think they were all of that if they won a tug-of-war............... and all of us real 4-wheelers would laugh and yawn.
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    Re: Ford backs off Cybertruck tug-of-war rematch, Musk doing it anyway

    Kind of like towing a freight train of cars, or towing the space shuttle....




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    Re: Ford backs off Cybertruck tug-of-war rematch, Musk doing it anyway

    Yep.............. it's all dumb.
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