Competition Goes Yellow too: Toyota plans to sell ethanol cars in US by 2008

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    Competition Goes Yellow too: Toyota plans to sell ethanol cars in US by 2008

    10 bucks says Toyota comes out smelling like a rose by advertising CARs running on Ethanol, not massive SUVs.

    Toyota plans to sell ethanol cars in US by 2008: FT
    Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:48 PM ET



    TOKYO (Reuters) - Toyota Motor Corp. plans to sell ethanol-powered vehicles in the United States by 2008, following the lead of domestics General Motors Corp. and Ford Motor Co. , the Financial Times reported on Wednesday, citing an unnamed company executive.

    A Toyota spokeswoman in Tokyo acknowledged that Japan's top auto maker was developing flexible-fuel vehicles, mainly for the ethanol-smitten Brazilian market for starters, but declined to disclose specific product plans.

    "We're proceeding with development of ethanol-based cars for Brazil, but for other markets we are gauging what needs there are first," she said.

    Toyota, a market leader in gasoline-electric hybrid vehicles, has resisted the technology amid worries about the impact of highly corrosive ethanol on rubber seals in the engine, the Financial Times said.

    U.S. auto makers have produced about 6 million flexible-fuel vehicles, with many running on E85, or a fuel blend consisting of 85 percent ethanol, or ethyl alcohol, and 15 percent gasoline.

    Toyota's new vehicle would be fitted with anti-corrosive parts to meet U.S. regulations, but the auto maker suggested that a less ambitious strategy of mixing only 10-15 percent ethanol into gasoline might produce greater savings, the paper said.

    Toyota is still keen to spread the use of hybrid vehicles, which save fuel by twinning a conventional engine with an electric motor, the spokeswoman said.

    President Bush has called for more ethanol use to reduce foreign oil imports, but fewer than 1,000 of the nation's 170,000 filling stations currently sell E85.

    Bush has set a six-year goal for making ethanol practical and competitive as an alternative fuel, and vowed to fund additional research into ways to make it not just from the commonly used corn but also from wood chips or grasses.

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    Re: Competition Goes Yellow too: Toyota plans to sell ethanol cars in US by 2008

    What scares me is Toyota selling its next-gen Prius running on E-85 flex fuel. Then they have GM beat on fuel economy AND renewable fuel. Meanwhile GM is busy trying to link its Tahoes with E-85 in the public's mind.
    The only people who "don't worry" about Gas Prices are people addicted to jacked up 4x4 trucks & SUVs like a smoker who can't control the price of cigarettes.

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    Re: Competition Goes Yellow too: Toyota plans to sell ethanol cars in US by 2008

    I think this will help get E85 the media attention it deserves!

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    Re: Competition Goes Yellow too: Toyota plans to sell ethanol cars in US by 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by GMCSonoma
    How about that...now all of the "import friends/e85 critics", will have to find another reason to put down the domestics...
    This should be good. I think I'll pop some popcorn.

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    Re: Competition Goes Yellow too: Toyota plans to sell ethanol cars in US by 2008

    Well, did you expect anything else from Toyota? They didn't get where they are by resting on their laurels. I'm not really surprised.

    importedtuna - I believe Ford has already announced they will be selling an E85 compatible hybrid.

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    Re: Competition Goes Yellow too: Toyota plans to sell ethanol cars in US by 2008

    So it sounds like Toyota will have different lines of cars for gas, hybrid, and E85 cars.

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    Re: Competition Goes Yellow too: Toyota plans to sell ethanol cars in US by 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Type
    I believe Ford has already announced they will be selling an E85 compatible hybrid.
    You are right.



    The Ford Escape E85 gas-electric hybrid, displayed at the Chicago show with Kermit the Frog. He's green. Get it? (Photo courtesy of Ford Motor Company)http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...cleId=109914#7

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    Re: Competition Goes Yellow too: Toyota plans to sell ethanol cars in US by 2008

    Very adaptable of Toyota. It can both lead (hybrid) and follow (E85). I wonder how long Toyota has had E85 technology in development, though?

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    Re: Competition Goes Yellow too: Toyota plans to sell ethanol cars in US by 2008

    hmmm GM ahead of the Times. Toyota openly copying GM. How sweet

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    Re: Competition Goes Yellow too: Toyota plans to sell ethanol cars in US by 2008

    For once, the domestics showed some leadership instead of being years behind others. Now if GM could make deals with sugar cane producers, if there are any left, we might actually have a cheap source of ethanol instead of complex and expensive corn-based.

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    Re: Competition Goes Yellow too: Toyota plans to sell ethanol cars in US by 2008

    I don't see where it confirms Toyota will sell flex fuel vehicles here.

    Here's the statement:
    "We're proceeding with development of ethanol-based cars for Brazil, but for other markets we are gauging what needs there are first," she said.

    This is no different than the domestic makers "gauging the market" for hybrids before jumping in.

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    Re: Competition Goes Yellow too: Toyota plans to sell ethanol cars in US by 2008

    Keep in mind that in Toyota's strongest markets (West Coast, New England, and the South), there are almost no E85 pumps available. Also, in Japan, such a thing doesn't exist. Brazil is basically forcing everybody to make E100 flexfuel cars there, so they are forced to work there.

    If they do sell them here, and are doing it for actual competative reasons (as opposed to PR reasons), then this could be a sign they plan on competing harder in areas where the domestics currently have more sway (IE the midwest).

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    Re: Competition Goes Yellow too: Toyota plans to sell ethanol cars in US by 2008

    Is this Toyota "Engineering by Press Release"?

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    Re: Competition Goes Yellow too: Toyota plans to sell ethanol cars in US by 2008

    Wow...GM already has over a million E85 capable cars on the road, but yet Toyota plans to introduce them in 2008. GM would be lambasted if the situation was turned around, and Toyota would be praised for being ''socially responsible''. I hate the media...

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    Re: Competition Goes Yellow too: Toyota plans to sell ethanol cars in US by 2008

    now watch toyota say they invented E85
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