C&D rips into Explorer, praises Telluride

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    C&D rips into Explorer, praises Telluride

    Three-Row SUVs Compared: Explorer, Telluride, Palisade, Enclave, and CX-9
    A pair of Korean newcomers and a fresh Explorer with its engine turned ask, who holds the aces, the East or the West?
    BY JARED GALL
    OCT 21, 2019
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    Hey, you. Yes, you. Don't pretend you just noticed something on the back of your hand or that your phone is buzzing in your pocket. We're talking to you. You who couldn't get enough of procreating and now need three rows of seating in a vehicle. We know you well enough to know that you don't want a minivan and that only a two-box crossover will do. Lucky for you, carmakers are swiping right on you, which explains the flood of new three-row products tailored for your life. There's so much churn in the class right now that, for most of our testers, this is our first exposure to three of these models.

    Most promising is the Ford Explorer. It might look like a malnourished example of the last-generation model, all vacuum-packed bulge split by bone lines, but it's so new that the engine is facing a different direction, and if you don't opt for all-wheel drive, the torque goes only to the rear wheels. Ford's turbo*charged 2.3-liter inline-four is on duty and has 300 horsepower and 310 pound-feet of torque turning the Ford/GM co-developed 10-speed automatic. The XLT is the lowliest Explorer trim, and this one packs all-wheel drive (a $2000 upcharge), 20-inch wheels ($1295), Ford's Co-Pilot360 Assist+ suite ($795), and a towing package ($710), for a grand total of $46,810.

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    Re: C&D rips into Explorer, praises Telluride

    Let's compare the top trim of a model vs. the bottom trim of another model and then complain the latter isn't equipped with options (that are on the higher trims).

    I understand the price argument, but the Koreans have always been a value thing.

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    Re: C&D rips into Explorer, praises Telluride

    Quote Originally Posted by rmc523 View Post
    Let's compare the top trim of a model vs. the bottom trim of another model and then complain the latter isn't equipped with options (that are on the higher trims).

    I understand the price argument, but the Koreans have always been a value thing.
    The new Explorer is really expensive though especially when you hit the middle trims. I found it odd how fast it gets about $50k.
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    Re: C&D rips into Explorer, praises Telluride

    Quote Originally Posted by bballr4567 View Post
    The new Explorer is really expensive though especially when you hit the middle trims. I found it odd how fast it gets about $50k.
    And to get a good looking one, you have to pop for the Platinum which at 53k, creeps into ,"May as well get the Aviator" territory
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    Quote Originally Posted by bballr4567 View Post
    The new Explorer is really expensive though especially when you hit the middle trims. I found it odd how fast it gets about $50k.
    I won't disagree with that.

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    Re: C&D rips into Explorer, praises Telluride

    Sadly, the Explorer reviews I've seen so far have been lukewarm. I actually really like it too......

    Lets get this thread some traction folks..... some of the local "Ford crowd" is disappointed the Aviator VS XT6 thread isn't "blowing up" This thread should too!

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    Re: C&D rips into Explorer, praises Telluride

    $47K for a XLT!?!? Damn, how much is the ST? $60K?

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    Re: C&D rips into Explorer, praises Telluride

    Quote Originally Posted by ranchman View Post
    Sadly, the Explorer reviews I've seen so far have been lukewarm. I actually really like it too......

    Lets get this thread some traction folks..... some of the local "Ford crowd" is disappointed the Aviator VS XT6 thread isn't "blowing up" This thread should too!
    What I'm surprised at is the ride/handling with the RWD architecture is not better. The reviews are not kind.

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    Re: C&D rips into Explorer, praises Telluride

    Quote Originally Posted by RamJet502 View Post
    $47K for a XLT!?!? Damn, how much is the ST? $60K?
    The XLT from the review has a few boxes checked...base starts at $37k. ST starts at 53.
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    Re: C&D rips into Explorer, praises Telluride

    The exterior on the Telluride looks like a 2007 GMC Yukon, very dated. Interior is pretty nice though, but I still don't see anything to get worked up over.

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    Re: C&D rips into Explorer, praises Telluride

    Quote Originally Posted by bballr4567 View Post
    The new Explorer is really expensive though especially when you hit the middle trims. I found it odd how fast it gets about $50k.
    I think I'd have less of a problem with their options comparison/complainted if they had properly pointed out that those features they complained about being "conspicuously absent" from the Explorer are available on higher trims, and not just acted like Explorer doesn't offer them at all.

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    Re: C&D rips into Explorer, praises Telluride

    Quote Originally Posted by LowRider View Post
    What I'm surprised at is the ride/handling with the RWD architecture is not better. The reviews are not kind.
    Especially considering the explorer has a 5" longer wheelbase.

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    Re: C&D rips into Explorer, praises Telluride

    So how does Kia/Hyundai offer all of these features for such a good price? Anyone read about how they can make a profit?

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    Re: C&D rips into Explorer, praises Telluride

    They have done that type of comparison before. The Koreans have always been a huge value play. That is how they have gained market share. Nothing new there either.

    That said, I haven't poked around a new Explorer, so will withhold judgement. I find the headlight treatment to be odd, but it looks a bit better in person (have seen a few on the road). However, the Telluride is hideous, but I'm sure it will sell.
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