Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

  1. Welcome to GM Inside News Forum – General discussion forum for GM

    Welcome to GM Inside News Forum - a website dedicated to all things GM.

    You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, Join GM Inside News Forum today!
     
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 17

Thread: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

  1. #1
    2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    377
    Thanks
    15
    Thanked 303 Times in 148 Posts

    Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    Shocking! Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups Not what you might think



    With five years of historical insurance data, it turns out the average repair cost of the Aluminum F150 is 7% LESS than steel pickups. This is due to many things as detailed in the video at the link. Another fact that has come about is that for some reason, as the Ford F150 continues to take marketshare from the Chevrolet Silverado, the accident rate for the F150 increased 7%. Not sure why. The video is interesting and enlightening for sure.

  2. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Mingo For This Useful Post:

    1958carnut (06-06-2019),BlackGTP (06-06-2019),CJH (06-07-2019),Extreme4x4 (06-06-2019),InCogKneeToe (06-06-2019)

  3. Remove Advertisements
    GM Inside News
    Advertisements
     

  4. #2
    6.2 Liter LS9 Supercharged V8 Premium Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    The land of the hethan
    Posts
    9,857
    Thanks
    1,415
    Thanked 3,228 Times in 2,137 Posts
    My Ride
    The coffin on wheels
    And all the original BS about aluminium F Series being more expensive than steel is now revealed.

  5. #3
    6.0 Liter L76 V8
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    2,401
    Thanks
    2,029
    Thanked 2,265 Times in 1,057 Posts

    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    Quote Originally Posted by jpd80 View Post
    And all the original BS about aluminium F Series being more expensive than steel is now revealed.
    I don't think it was BS, or even intentionally misleading, so much as it was just a lack of knowledge of what the costs would actually be. Given the general lack of experience among body shops with aluminum vehicles and the fact that all previous aluminum vehicles were sedans who's use cases were wholly different than full size trucks it's understandable IMO.

    Not everything is a conspiracy... unless you're Greg.botts.

  6. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to SP1966 For This Useful Post:

    CJH (06-07-2019),erasmus (06-07-2019)

  7. Remove Advertisements
    GM Inside News
    Advertisements
     

  8. #4
    6.0 Liter L76 V8
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Posts
    2,059
    Thanks
    565
    Thanked 1,020 Times in 629 Posts

    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    I recently sold a 2019 F150 Super Cab, the Customer traded a 2015 F150 Super Cab. His Insurance actually went down by nearly $300 (25%).

    Mind you, 2015 Super Cabs didn't have the Wheel Blocker for the 5 Star Safety Rating, which they now do. But 7% cheaper repairs must help also.

  9. The Following User Says Thank You to InCogKneeToe For This Useful Post:

    Neanderthal (06-06-2019)

  10. #5
    6.2 Liter LS9 Supercharged V8
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    St. George, Ut.
    Posts
    8,353
    Thanks
    10,198
    Thanked 2,731 Times in 1,789 Posts
    My Ride
    2016 Nissan Rogue SV AWD

    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    Well I'll be a monkey's uncle and all that jive. This is pretty good considering all the initial doom and gloom.

  11. The Following User Says Thank You to 1958carnut For This Useful Post:

    Extreme4x4 (06-06-2019)

  12. #6
    News Contributor BlackGTP's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Connecticut
    Posts
    13,453
    Thanks
    5,034
    Thanked 7,224 Times in 3,715 Posts
    My Ride
    2013 Cadillac ATS - Black

    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    Who would've thunk, very interesting.

  13. #7
    R2-D2 Astromech Droid bballr4567's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Evansville, IN
    Posts
    17,112
    Thanks
    2,046
    Thanked 4,036 Times in 2,333 Posts
    My Ride
    2016 Camaro 1LT V6 M6

    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    Basically, Ford re-engineered how to fix the vehicles faster. It's not really cheaper to actually fix the metal but rather easier to just replace it. Very smart thinking.

  14. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to bballr4567 For This Useful Post:

    Chassis Guy (06-10-2019),Extreme4x4 (06-06-2019),SRFCTY (06-10-2019)

  15. #8
    6.2 Liter LS9 Supercharged V8 richmond2000's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Winterpeg
    Posts
    8,384
    Thanks
    8,929
    Thanked 1,521 Times in 1,103 Posts
    My Ride
    2014 RAM 1500 HEMI

    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    Quote Originally Posted by InCogKneeToe View Post
    I recently sold a 2019 F150 Super Cab, the Customer traded a 2015 F150 Super Cab. His Insurance actually went down by nearly $300 (25%).

    Mind you, 2015 Super Cabs didn't have the Wheel Blocker for the 5 Star Safety Rating, which they now do. But 7% cheaper repairs must help also.
    my friends 2019 F150 is cheaper to insure then my 2014 RAM and both are very similar option wise

  16. #9
    6.2 Liter LS9 Supercharged V8 Premium Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    The land of the hethan
    Posts
    9,857
    Thanks
    1,415
    Thanked 3,228 Times in 2,137 Posts
    My Ride
    The coffin on wheels

    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    Quote Originally Posted by SP1966 View Post
    I don't think it was BS, or even intentionally misleading, so much as it was just a lack of knowledge of what the costs would actually be. Given the general lack of experience among body shops with aluminum vehicles and the fact that all previous aluminum vehicles were sedans who's use cases were wholly different than full size trucks it's understandable IMO.
    Those original estimations of aluminum F Series repair costs were wildly wrong, mostly because they were based on repairing aluminum panels instead of replacing them. I could see how that would be a watershed moment for repairers and insurance companies, the in and out times would be quicker with a lot less panel beating and body prep work needed.

    Not everything is a conspiracy... unless you're Greg.botts.
    Careful, he's like Beetlejuice...
    Last edited by jpd80; 06-07-2019 at 03:26 AM.

  17. The Following User Says Thank You to jpd80 For This Useful Post:

    CJH (06-07-2019)

  18. #10
    News Contributor BlackGTP's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Connecticut
    Posts
    13,453
    Thanks
    5,034
    Thanked 7,224 Times in 3,715 Posts
    My Ride
    2013 Cadillac ATS - Black

    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    Quote Originally Posted by richmond2000 View Post
    my friends 2019 F150 is cheaper to insure then my 2014 RAM and both are very similar option wise
    Or does that just mean you have way to many speeding tickets

  19. #11
    6.2 Liter LS9 Supercharged V8 richmond2000's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Winterpeg
    Posts
    8,384
    Thanks
    8,929
    Thanked 1,521 Times in 1,103 Posts
    My Ride
    2014 RAM 1500 HEMI

    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    Or does that just mean you have way to many speeding tickets
    an issue because its got a HEMI

    I don't live in the USA and have "public" auto insurance and they LIST the "base" rate that does NOT include the driving record and the FORD is cheaper and nether truck has driver aids

  20. #12
    6.0 Liter L76 V8
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Posts
    2,059
    Thanks
    565
    Thanked 1,020 Times in 629 Posts

    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    Quote Originally Posted by richmond2000 View Post
    an issue because its got a HEMI

    I don't live in the USA and have "public" auto insurance and they LIST the "base" rate that does NOT include the driving record and the FORD is cheaper and nether truck has driver aids
    Canadian Insurance, weather it's Gov. or Private, is more concerned with Medical Costs than the Vehicle or it's equipment. Walking away from an accident, without Long Term Care, is Crucial to Cheaper Insurance.

    That being said. Body Work has been "Replace Part" for a long time, way back to the Steel Years. Labor Rates of $100+/hour, has made that happen.
    Last edited by InCogKneeToe; 06-07-2019 at 02:15 PM.

  21. #13
    3.6 Liter SIDI V6
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Posts
    1,045
    Thanks
    587
    Thanked 731 Times in 388 Posts

    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    This really isn’t a surprise. Huge F-Series volume combined with a market where mass produced parts are cheaper than ‘by hand’ labor meant large body damage repair bills were always unlikely for this truck. It’s just common sense.
    Last edited by SVT74; 06-08-2019 at 09:58 PM.

  22. The Following User Says Thank You to SVT74 For This Useful Post:

    CJH (06-07-2019)

  23. #14
    3.0 Liter SIDI V6
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    SE MI
    Posts
    581
    Thanks
    315
    Thanked 212 Times in 126 Posts
    My Ride
    2008 HHR SS

    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    Quote Originally Posted by bballr4567 View Post
    Basically, Ford re-engineered how to fix the vehicles faster. It's not really cheaper to actually fix the metal but rather easier to just replace it. Very smart thinking.
    There is so much opportunity to do that on the Service side of the business. Most people have no clue. Dealers want throughput, turnover, whatever you want to call it. Revenues per stall, or per tech. OEMs are nearly completely clueless, and usually make that worse with stuff like engine covers and splash shields that have to be removed to access anything. If Ford figured this out, GM is huge trouble...

  24. The Following User Says Thank You to Chassis Guy For This Useful Post:

    SVT74 (06-10-2019)

  25. #15
    6.0 Liter L76 V8
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Posts
    2,059
    Thanks
    565
    Thanked 1,020 Times in 629 Posts

    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    Quote Originally Posted by Chassis Guy View Post
    There is so much opportunity to do that on the Service side of the business. Most people have no clue. Dealers want throughput, turnover, whatever you want to call it. Revenues per stall, or per tech. OEMs are nearly completely clueless, and usually make that worse with stuff like engine covers and splash shields that have to be removed to access anything. If Ford figured this out, GM is huge trouble...
    Most Manufacturers do have a ways to go with Working on a Finished Product. You would think Warranty Times would turn on a Light or two.

    Engineers, should be required to do a simple fix on a finished product. Just as Service Managers should be required to purchase a Brand New Vehicle with Warranty before they are Hired. Making Payments on one of your own, would cause a little more Empathy for the Customer's Problems.

  26. The Following User Says Thank You to InCogKneeToe For This Useful Post:

    SVT74 (06-10-2019)

  27. Remove Advertisements
    GM Inside News
    Advertisements
     

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.1.2