Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

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    Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    Shocking! Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups Not what you might think



    With five years of historical insurance data, it turns out the average repair cost of the Aluminum F150 is 7% LESS than steel pickups. This is due to many things as detailed in the video at the link. Another fact that has come about is that for some reason, as the Ford F150 continues to take marketshare from the Chevrolet Silverado, the accident rate for the F150 increased 7%. Not sure why. The video is interesting and enlightening for sure.

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    And all the original BS about aluminium F Series being more expensive than steel is now revealed.

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    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    Quote Originally Posted by jpd80 View Post
    And all the original BS about aluminium F Series being more expensive than steel is now revealed.
    I don't think it was BS, or even intentionally misleading, so much as it was just a lack of knowledge of what the costs would actually be. Given the general lack of experience among body shops with aluminum vehicles and the fact that all previous aluminum vehicles were sedans who's use cases were wholly different than full size trucks it's understandable IMO.

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    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    I recently sold a 2019 F150 Super Cab, the Customer traded a 2015 F150 Super Cab. His Insurance actually went down by nearly $300 (25%).

    Mind you, 2015 Super Cabs didn't have the Wheel Blocker for the 5 Star Safety Rating, which they now do. But 7% cheaper repairs must help also.

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    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    Well I'll be a monkey's uncle and all that jive. This is pretty good considering all the initial doom and gloom.

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    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    Who would've thunk, very interesting.

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    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    Basically, Ford re-engineered how to fix the vehicles faster. It's not really cheaper to actually fix the metal but rather easier to just replace it. Very smart thinking.

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    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    Quote Originally Posted by InCogKneeToe View Post
    I recently sold a 2019 F150 Super Cab, the Customer traded a 2015 F150 Super Cab. His Insurance actually went down by nearly $300 (25%).

    Mind you, 2015 Super Cabs didn't have the Wheel Blocker for the 5 Star Safety Rating, which they now do. But 7% cheaper repairs must help also.
    my friends 2019 F150 is cheaper to insure then my 2014 RAM and both are very similar option wise

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    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    Quote Originally Posted by SP1966 View Post
    I don't think it was BS, or even intentionally misleading, so much as it was just a lack of knowledge of what the costs would actually be. Given the general lack of experience among body shops with aluminum vehicles and the fact that all previous aluminum vehicles were sedans who's use cases were wholly different than full size trucks it's understandable IMO.
    Those original estimations of aluminum F Series repair costs were wildly wrong, mostly because they were based on repairing aluminum panels instead of replacing them. I could see how that would be a watershed moment for repairers and insurance companies, the in and out times would be quicker with a lot less panel beating and body prep work needed.

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    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    Quote Originally Posted by richmond2000 View Post
    my friends 2019 F150 is cheaper to insure then my 2014 RAM and both are very similar option wise
    Or does that just mean you have way to many speeding tickets

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    Or does that just mean you have way to many speeding tickets
    an issue because its got a HEMI

    I don't live in the USA and have "public" auto insurance and they LIST the "base" rate that does NOT include the driving record and the FORD is cheaper and nether truck has driver aids

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    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    Quote Originally Posted by richmond2000 View Post
    an issue because its got a HEMI

    I don't live in the USA and have "public" auto insurance and they LIST the "base" rate that does NOT include the driving record and the FORD is cheaper and nether truck has driver aids
    Canadian Insurance, weather it's Gov. or Private, is more concerned with Medical Costs than the Vehicle or it's equipment. Walking away from an accident, without Long Term Care, is Crucial to Cheaper Insurance.

    That being said. Body Work has been "Replace Part" for a long time, way back to the Steel Years. Labor Rates of $100+/hour, has made that happen.
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    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    This really isn’t a surprise. Huge F-Series volume combined with a market where mass produced parts are cheaper than ‘by hand’ labor meant large body damage repair bills were always unlikely for this truck. It’s just common sense.
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    Re: Aluminum Ford F-150 Repair Costs vs Steel Pickups

    Quote Originally Posted by bballr4567 View Post
    Basically, Ford re-engineered how to fix the vehicles faster. It's not really cheaper to actually fix the metal but rather easier to just replace it. Very smart thinking.
    There is so much opportunity to do that on the Service side of the business. Most people have no clue. Dealers want throughput, turnover, whatever you want to call it. Revenues per stall, or per tech. OEMs are nearly completely clueless, and usually make that worse with stuff like engine covers and splash shields that have to be removed to access anything. If Ford figured this out, GM is huge trouble...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chassis Guy View Post
    There is so much opportunity to do that on the Service side of the business. Most people have no clue. Dealers want throughput, turnover, whatever you want to call it. Revenues per stall, or per tech. OEMs are nearly completely clueless, and usually make that worse with stuff like engine covers and splash shields that have to be removed to access anything. If Ford figured this out, GM is huge trouble...
    Most Manufacturers do have a ways to go with Working on a Finished Product. You would think Warranty Times would turn on a Light or two.

    Engineers, should be required to do a simple fix on a finished product. Just as Service Managers should be required to purchase a Brand New Vehicle with Warranty before they are Hired. Making Payments on one of your own, would cause a little more Empathy for the Customer's Problems.

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