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    OpEd: Meet the Cadillac CT6

    Cadillac's CT6
    October 2nd, 2014
    by MonaroSS



    This is 90% what CT6 will be












    Credit goes to member dslay04 for pointing out the CAD drawing in the strategic plan thread that shows the CT6 body panels. Great catch!

    As can be seen with the partial CAD overlay below - the render is a perfect copy of the CAD body and I just filled in the missing bits like glass, wheels. lower sill and rear bumper skin from the camo car photos. The only area of speculation is the front clip

    So we got lucky and with that I could combine those accurate panels with the spy pics we have already seen to create these renders, which from the headlights back I am confident are 98% accurate.

    Because the CAD drawing did not have the front clip I have had to guesstimate at what the grille, headlights and lower front clip may look like. But the upper part of the lights is shown so only the lower sections are unknown, and from some of the head on spy pics that show uncovered grille areas (see below) we can see it is wide and shallow. So I used the Elmiraj grille and as the panel cutout for the upper portion of the headlights looks very CTS I have used those headlights and made them fit the panels in one version and in the other did a variation on the Elmiraj/Ciel headlights.









    So what do we get? We have a conservative large car that has elegant proportions and will likely have extremely well styled details, as recent Cadillac's have, and thus look even better up close. I like it, what say you?

    1, 2, 3… go for it.





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    Great job, but why is sitting so low to the ground, i.e. "slammed"?
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    Great job, but why is sitting so low to the ground, i.e. "slammed"?
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    Re: OpEd: Meet the Cadillac CT6

    First look i thought its a KIA.

    The problem Cadillac is on design side, the Korian twins took premium design to mass cars. Now all premium brands need to find a new design to differentiate.

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    Re: OpEd: Meet the Cadillac CT6

    Overall I like it. I know you said the grill was more of an estimation given what you had to work with, but I think that could use some improvement. It's too wide and not quite tall enough. Its hard for me to describe, but it almost looks too narrow. Otherwise, awesome!!
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    Re: OpEd: Meet the Cadillac CT6

    Quote Originally Posted by uvikrama View Post
    First look i thought its a KIA.

    The problem Cadillac is on design side, the Korian twins took premium design to mass cars. Now all premium brands need to find a new design to differentiate.
    That's it. When I saw the grill, my first thought was Kia
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    Re: OpEd: Meet the Cadillac CT6

    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy4Life View Post
    Great job, but why is sitting so low to the ground, i.e. "slammed"?
    The car in the spy pic it's based on was turning the corner pretty hard and leaning a bit - then I added low profile tires on top of that... I thought I'd leave it, as it shows it cornering hard and that's exactly what this baby is meant to be able to do...




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    Re: OpEd: Meet the Cadillac CT6

    Great work. But I'm underwhelmed if that is the CT6. Now I understand why GM came out very fast and forcibly stated that this is not a 7 series, S class etc. competitor.......No kidding....
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    Re: OpEd: Meet the Cadillac CT6

    Looks really sharp!

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    Re: OpEd: Meet the Cadillac CT6

    I hope to Christ it doesn't become a "Zeta max" wedge like that.

    The whole idea of the Ciel and Elmiraj concepts - is the rear bulkhead is no higher than the cowl.

    All that pdf paper we saw yesterday said is "Premium Sedan" - not a slam dunk at all.


    Even the spy shots seem closer to the concept than this pdf screen cap

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    Re: OpEd: Meet the Cadillac CT6

    ^^^ Let me share some undeniable proof that your eyes are being deceived. Below you think that IVER camo car is not a wedge shape but the lower window line is relatively flat and the hood and trunk are similar heights. Wrong.

    Look at the red lines, they show the true perspective, and the wheels prove that all three red lines a parallel to each other. The blue line is the lower side window line which is quite wedge angled. Just so we are on the same page. The wheels are the same size front and rear. The bottom of both those wheels are parallel to the ground as are the tops of those wheels - so we know the two lower red lines are parallel to the ground. Then I took the same wheels and stacked them so the tops of the wheels stacks are also parallel to the ground.

    Now look at how the underside of the top red line meets the bottom of the rear door window. Now look how high above that red line is above the hood. Only a wedge shape can produce that height difference. You can't beat using wheels to measure pictures...











    Quote Originally Posted by Al63240 View Post
    Overall I like it. I know you said the grill was more of an estimation given what you had to work with, but I think that could use some improvement. It's too wide and not quite tall enough. Its hard for me to describe, but it almost looks too narrow. Otherwise, awesome!!
    In sizing the grille as I did I was thinking of three things...

    1. This is meant to be a big wide car and I think they will try to make a statement with that - and people have said the new front design language with verticle lights makes the Caddy's look narrower than say BMW's.

    2. Word is that it doesn't look like CTS in front and making the grille narrower and deeper would make it look very CTS.

    3. I looked at the flow of the hood lines and where they seemed to indicate the width of the grille would be. I also compared them to Elmiraj hood lines and it all pointed to a wider grille. We will have to see...






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    Re: OpEd: Meet the Cadillac CT6

    I expect to see jewel-like detailing that will bring this conservative design to life. Has promise. I think a deeper grille would make a real difference also.
    Need render in a couple darker colors. White pics tend to wash out body surfacing and chrome accents.
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    Re: OpEd: Meet the Cadillac CT6

    It would blend in and look like a close relative of my Kia.

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    Re: OpEd: Meet the Cadillac CT6

    Meh...I'm underwhelmed, too!

    Cars - especially LUXURY cars with a 6 side-window treatment tend to look a bit...'ow you saaaayy...CHEAP!

    The wheelbase looks like it should be a bit longer with the extra window actually being incorporated into the doorframe with a couple of extra inches being added to the front of the cabin and doors! Then again, GM said it's NOT a 7-Series and S-Class competitor! With the XT being applied to the SUVs, Escalade notwithstanding, it seems more of a RWD version of the XTS!

    This is NOT an indictment of MonaroSS' skills! I truly LOVE MonaroSS' renderings; I'm just MEH about the CT6 at this point! However, a KNOCKOUT interior would balance things, however, IMHO!
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    Re: OpEd: Meet the Cadillac CT6

    Quote Originally Posted by Surreal View Post
    Cars - especially LUXURY cars with a 6 side-window treatment tend to look a bit...'ow you saaaayy...CHEAP!
    Do they?

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