Dude you can not judge Cadillac by the last 10-15 years of the
Eldog.....that car has a history to be proud of and so does Cadillac. You don't run from your legacy because of a few ignorant people that don't know better you educate them. I wish Cadillac would go back to their naming system and stop the imitation of someone else with the 3 letters.
Monaro SS you have done beyond a great job! Please don't let the Pee Wee Hermans of the world distract from your work with comments about two tone or pimps. It is the difference between those that have flare and those that don't. You know kind of like people who drive Toyotas.
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2012 Hyundai Veloster
2008 Ford F150 Regular Cab
Future car: Cadillac ELR or Tesla Model S
^^^ Thanks mate, but I have thick skin. And I can give as good as I get if I feel an 'educational' response is in order.
But I prefer people who make a comment of any kind than those who don't. Though it's better when people who like or don't like the chops to actually say what features they do and don't like than just a generic, "it's great" or "it's ****"... Feedback helps me learn what features do and don't work.
BTW, I've done these chops with the windows down on the coupe, and I think they both look hot... I think that without the front/rear side window break line the flow of the car and the juxtaposition of the side vent break works better.
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I have already created a solution below. I expanded the moulding above the lower intakes into bumperettes and the LED headlights are reduced to hard clear plastic indicator lights for the top half and soft clear plastic parking lights for the lower half that is at risk of damage. The hide-away headlights are behind the body color panels....
MonaroSS, thanks for the great work! It is a fabulous updating of classic Cadillac styling cues combined with a contemporary upscale appearance. I love the apect of reviving an Eldorado or a Biarritz version--the models from 1953 through at least 1980 are legendary! I like the "side scoops" and especially the hood beveling on the Ciel, along with the proportions of your renditions. Cadillac's must have "bold" styling and carry over styling elements from their great model years!
Cadillac represents cutting edge luxury now. Give them new names reflective of that.
Thanks guys, that to me is one of the pleasures of design - developing an engineering solution that works.
It may sound strange, but creating a fantastic looking design is almost the easy part. Car designers then spend 3 years trying to defend against the engineers slowly deconstructing their fabulous design as they convert it to a real world, regulation complianced, and saleable vehicle.
That is one reason why I have never been a fan of these over the top fantasy concept sketches with the massive wheels, decapitated headroom and proportions that can never translate into a real vehicle. You may as well start off with something more realistic but with some real design flair that can survive to production, than something fantastic which ends up a mutilated abortion that loses all flair and looks like a committee did it...
THAT is a car that needs to see production. I was iffy on the side vents, but holy hell is that beautiful. They looked a little overly gaudy at first, but I'll be damned if it doesn't look great on that coupe. On the sedan, meh... You could try to parallel the side vents with similarly styled and positioned vents further up on the wheelbase OR parallel the styling of the vents with the shape and flow of the grille, but I'm not sure how that would really work with the flow of the character line down the side.
Also, do you have any interpretations of what the headlights might look like?
Still would love to see what it would look like with more formal C-Pillars. Maybe with a subtle inlaid wreath and crest on them too. This could also be the button for opening the rear doors.
Nice work Monaro, adding the roof gives the Ciel a real "Flagship" look and I like the two grille idea along with the side bars (forgot about them), and thanks for putting real names on them.
Now I can see Cadillac going after Bentley for the upper end luxury market.
I thought I would post this PM exchange for any others interested...
Most people use Adobe Photoshop. I have that program as well as Corel Photo-Paint. But the Program I use is Jasc Paint Shop Pro.I know you've heard this a million times, but I love your work! I was wondering if you could point me in the direction on what computer program(s) I would need to start creating concepts like you do? I used to draw all the time in 2D and 3D, but would like to learn more, and create the realistic looking concepts you crank out.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I don't think the program you use makes as much difference as practicing doing as many things as possible. But as always with artistic activity, the most important thing is being able to see. I mean really see a picture. See the details, how the light reflects off surfaces, how the viewers eye will catch on certain features and create an impression. You should Google Image "impressionist art" and see how light is very messy, but the human mind can still see a clear picture. Also check out these paintings and examine them really closely, as they are not photo's; http://fineartblogger.com/amazing-ph...tic-paintings/
When you can understand how light and shade works you can do realistic looking chops. The pic below is hand painted by some dude, but you should understand what he sees. To avoid cartoonish looking chops you must see and preserve the reflected images in the paintwork as best as possible. It's detail that counts.
^^^The painting above is actually a painting of a building and sky which the artist has distorted in such a way as to make it look like the polished bonnet/hood of a car...
VVV PS This too below is a painting..
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