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    Toyota lets drivers keep leasing electrics

    Toyota lets drivers keep leasing electrics
    By TIM MOLLOY
    Associated Press Writer


    Flashback GM EV1:
    http://www.electrifyingtimes.com/ev1_crushed.html
    http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005...tters_vs_c.php
    http://www.rtpnet.org/pipermail/teaa-l/2005/000016.html

    SEP. 1 6:08 P.M. ET Without fanfare, Toyota has agreed to let customers continue driving about 1,000 discontinued electric vehicles that were a precursor to the popular Prius gas-electric hybrid.

    The auto company's decision is a victory for a small but devoted band of electric car drivers, who say automakers never gave the cars a chance to succeed in the mass market. Supporters say electric cars reduce the country's reliance on polluting gasoline, whose price has surged in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.

    "Toyota has been very progressive in responding to consumer demand," said Chelsea Sexton, a member of Plug in America, which argued for keeping the Toyotas on the road. "They didn't think these vehicles would ever be as popular as they turned out to be. For us there was no question."

    Several automakers produced electric vehicles in response to 1990 air quality regulations requiring that 10 percent of all new cars sold in California by 2003 produce no tailpipe emissions.

    But after persuading judges to whittle away the regulations, automakers that had leased the vehicles to consumers began reclaiming and destroying them, saying it wasn't feasible to continue servicing vehicles that never caught on with consumers.

    The need to plug in the vehicles every 100 miles or so warded off many buyers, but dedicated drivers pleaded to keep their electric cars, saying automakers had made no real effort to promote the technology.

    They held demonstrations outside Toyota Motor Sales USA dealerships, pleading with the company not to reclaim them when the leases expired.

    Toyota Motor Corp. produced about 1,500 of the small SUVs between 1997 to 2003, leasing most of them to companies and government agencies for use as fleet vehicles.

    About 300 private individuals who leased Rav4s were allowed to continue leasing or to buy them, but Toyota has now agreed to extend leases on the fleet vehicles, some of which have fallen into private hands, company spokeswoman Cindy Knight said.

    http://www.businessweek.com/ap/finan...e_down&chan=db

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    Re: Unlike GM, Toyota lets drivers keep leasing electrics

    Who wrote the headline?
    Less then 1500 vehicles who cares?
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    Re: Unlike GM, Toyota lets drivers keep leasing electrics

    Quote Originally Posted by espo19047
    Who wrote the headline?
    Good question. It's not just GM; Ford has the same stance. However that company just recently "gave in" to two hard-core fans of the electric Ranger pickup. Ford originally had forbidden sales of the electric trucks, but once a couple of lease holders staged a sit in at a Ford dealer the company changed its mind in a limited "customer satisfaction issue."

    http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosins...utos-66887.htm

    One of these trucks showed up on eBay not long ago too; I wonder how that happened?

    I figure if someone wants to put up with an electric vehicle's shortcomings and sign a waiver of any liability/warranty, what's the big deal in selling them? Makes more sense than scrapping them for next to nothing. It's not as if company secrets are hidden inside the batteries or something!

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    Re: Toyota lets drivers keep leasing electrics

    I kind of miss those electric vehicles running around everywhere; there was a Th!nk in my sister's neighborhood, and a saw a few EV1's and RAV4EV running around in the California Bay Area, and even a few of the 3 wheel single seaters too. Costco used to have the electric plugs for these vehicles in the parking lot so you can recharge while you shop. Fry's electronics (geek heaven) still have them iirc. The last EV i saw was a RAV4EV a few months ago =/ Well, at least hybrids are popular now; I see dozens every day on my short commute.

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    Re: Toyota lets drivers keep leasing electrics

    If they want them, then let them have them.

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    Re: Toyota lets drivers keep leasing electrics

    That picture of the crushed EVs is going to haunt GM every time they bring up being less pollution in their cars. Coupled with the fact that Ford and Honda let some people keep their EVs and Toyota let nearly all of their fans keep theirs is going to be a PR nightmare for the company.

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