Honda Placing ‘Fun to Drive’ Over Outright Performance

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    Honda Placing ‘Fun to Drive’ Over Outright Performance


    Honda, a brand known for its racing pedigree, is placing a lesser emphasis on outright performance in favor of products that are “fun to drive,” a top executive said last week.

    It wasn’t long ago that Honda offered some of the most interesting and exciting performance cars geared at the enthusiast market. The S2000 is still a crowd favorite among car lovers as is the iconic Integra Type R.

    With the exception of the upcoming NSX that few will be able to afford, it’s hard not to feel like Honda has given up on building legitimate performance vehicles. With the Civic Si, Honda doesn’t even seem to be concerned with offering something that approaches driving dynamics similar to the Integra Type R, or all-out performance on par with segment rivals like the Mazdaspeed3 or Ford Focus ST. For now, that’s exactly where the company wants to be according to American Honda senior vice president Mike Accavitti.
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    So basically Honda is going the Mazda route. They want to make up for the lack of performance. They want to do it through making people feel they are still getting something even though they are getting less of it.

    This is only going to become more common as MPG becomes center focus in the future.

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    Re: Honda Placing ‘Fun to Drive’ Over Outright Performance

    Quote Originally Posted by gcodori View Post
    So basically Honda is going the Mazda route. They want to make up for the lack of performance. They want to do it through making people feel they are still getting something even though they are getting less of it.

    This is only going to become more common as MPG becomes center focus in the future.

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    I see no problem with this. Better handling and quicker steering often make up for slower acceleration. This is the formula for a lot of traditional sports cars and roadsters like MGs and Miatas.

    If I give up straight line speed for miles per gallon then give me more smiles per gallon.
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    Re: Honda Placing ‘Fun to Drive’ Over Outright Performance

    This makes sense. One thing I loved about my Soul was how quick on its feet it was. Surprisingly, it didn't lean much despite what looks like an awkward carcass.
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    Re: Honda Placing ‘Fun to Drive’ Over Outright Performance

    Sounds like they are making excuses for not having any cars that are actually fast.

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    Re: Honda Placing ‘Fun to Drive’ Over Outright Performance

    It may cost too much to do performance. Fun to drive is much cheaper to pull off. Sure, Honda has the Performance chops. Maybe Acura is the badge for some of this "famed" Honda performance.
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    Re: Honda Placing ‘Fun to Drive’ Over Outright Performance

    This makes sense of your car is more fun to drive than competitors. That's a tough case to make for the Civic Si against the Focus St or the VW gti. Or the CRZ against the Velocitor Turbo. The last Honda that might claim fun to drive superiority would be the Fit, maybe. When the Si regains a screaming 8500 rpm motor and a chassis that rotates like the St, maybe Honda can claim the high ground on fun to drive. We'll see!

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    Re: Honda Placing ‘Fun to Drive’ Over Outright Performance

    The bar to be a fast car is set so high now with Corvette's, etc doing 0-60 in under 4 seconds, CUV's routinely doing 0-60 under 8 seconds, etc.. I don't see any issue with focusing on fun - I'd actually like to see GM doing this. Once 0-60 becomes a focus we tend to get into costly engines which adds $$ to cars and makes them unaffordable.

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    Re: Honda Placing ‘Fun to Drive’ Over Outright Performance

    I'm confused, when exactly did Honda ever focus on performance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcodori View Post
    So basically Honda is going the Mazda route. They want to make up for the lack of performance. They want to do it through making people feel they are still getting something even though they are getting less of it.

    This is only going to become more common as MPG becomes center focus in the future.

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    I think I worded this too negatively. It's not a bad thing but just something we are ALL going to have to get used to.

    And yes I'd take cornering over speed.

    What's the old saying...
    Speed, well built, price. You can only pick 2.

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    Re: Honda Placing ‘Fun to Drive’ Over Outright Performance

    Quote Originally Posted by zete View Post
    I'm confused, when exactly did Honda ever focus on performance?
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    Re: Honda Placing ‘Fun to Drive’ Over Outright Performance

    Quote Originally Posted by zete View Post
    I'm confused, when exactly did Honda ever focus on performance?
    About a decade ago. Civic Si had double wishbone, S2000 was in production, Accord has as much power as the Regal GS, and they were planning a V8/V10 NSX.
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    Re: Honda Placing ‘Fun to Drive’ Over Outright Performance

    Quote Originally Posted by zete View Post
    I'm confused, when exactly did Honda ever focus on performance?
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    Re: Honda Placing ‘Fun to Drive’ Over Outright Performance

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesda View Post
    About a decade ago. Civic Si had double wishbone, S2000 was in production, Accord has as much power as the Regal GS, and they were planning a V8/V10 NSX.
    Also a bit back in time, when they got a Prelude before they decided to pull the plug and bring the Aztec-wannabee Element.

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    Re: Honda Placing ‘Fun to Drive’ Over Outright Performance

    So, it's gonna be Boom-Boom vs. Zoom-Zoom?
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