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    Big Three, Japanese Brands "Equal" on Initial Quality

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    The U.S. Big Three closed the gap with the Japanese vehicles on initial vehicle quality
    Infiniti QX56 SUV the least reliable. The magazine relies for its rankings on reports from readers, as well as its own testers, with a record one million questionnaires received back for the new issue, compared to 675,000 a year ago.

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    Re: Big Three, Japanese Brands "Equal" on Initial Quality

    me too

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    Re: Big Three, Japanese Brands "Equal" on Initial Quality

    IQS don't really matter to me, I look at long term

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    Re: Big Three, Japanese Brands "Equal" on Initial Quality

    You said this

    The U.S. Big Three closed the gap with the Japanese vehicles on initial vehicle quality,

    BUt, you forgot to mention this.

    but the Japanese brands still led significantly in in durability from 2-8 years

    but whatever. most people disclaim consumer reports anyway.

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    Re: Big Three, Japanese Brands "Equal" on Initial Quality

    Quote Originally Posted by pagemaster
    You said this

    The U.S. Big Three closed the gap with the Japanese vehicles on initial vehicle quality,

    BUt, you forgot to mention this.

    but the Japanese brands still led significantly in in durability from 2-8 years

    but whatever. most people disclaim consumer reports anyway.
    Exactly.

    Wait wait, didn't most of you GM fans dismiss and flame CR for the latest report it released because GM didn't do so well?

    Yet now, you use CR ratings in initial quality because they show domestic makers in a good light?

    Hypocrites.

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    Re: Big Three, Japanese Brands "Equal" on Initial Quality

    Of course they are ahead in 8 year quality, those tests are including 1998 Cutlasses and Luminas. Domestic vehicles are in a totally different place right now.

    In any case, most quality reports are stupid and pointless.
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    Re: Big Three, Japanese Brands "Equal" on Initial Quality

    Quote Originally Posted by AdmiralViscen
    Of course they are ahead in 8 year quality, those tests are including 1998 Cutlasses and Luminas. Domestic vehicles are in a totally different place right now.

    In any case, most quality reports are stupid and pointless.
    It also indicates how committed the imports are to their products compared to the domestics.
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    Re: Big Three, Japanese Brands "Equal" on Initial Quality

    I think that the Big Three had bad duarability during the 90's, so their quality ratings will definatly be down. They say that they have changed, so we got to wait 5 years to see what happens

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    Re: Big Three, Japanese Brands "Equal" on Initial Quality

    Quote Originally Posted by Vintalage
    It also indicates how committed the imports are to their products compared to the domestics.
    Uh... okay?
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    Re: Big Three, Japanese Brands "Equal" on Initial Quality

    Quote Originally Posted by Vintalage
    It also indicates how committed the imports are to their products compared to the domestics.
    A mute point in today's auto market. Every company regardless of origin is committed to product.

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    Re: Big Three, Japanese Brands "Equal" on Initial Quality

    Quote Originally Posted by pagemaster
    You said this

    The U.S. Big Three closed the gap with the Japanese vehicles on initial vehicle quality,

    BUt, you forgot to mention this.

    but the Japanese brands still led significantly in in durability from 2-8 years

    but whatever. most people disclaim consumer reports anyway.
    Well guess what. The vehicles GM has put out in the last 2 or 3 years can't really be judged long term can they? Or the ones they are just releasing now for that fact.

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    Re: Big Three, Japanese Brands "Equal" on Initial Quality

    i suppose CR isnt so biased afterall, is it?

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    Re: Big Three, Japanese Brands "Equal" on Initial Quality

    Quote Originally Posted by gmrebirth
    Exactly.

    Wait wait, didn't most of you GM fans dismiss and flame CR for the latest report it released because GM didn't do so well?

    Yet now, you use CR ratings in initial quality because they show domestic makers in a good light?

    Hypocrites.
    you toyota loving people do the same thing,


    Just look at their reviews of cars. They only get most of the opinions from their readers( who are mainly Import people BTW) . who already buy in to their BS.
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    Re: Big Three, Japanese Brands "Equal" on Initial Quality

    who cares anymore, the import freaks deny it, the domestic freaks try to prove otherwise, then arguing begins. I've seen it so many times it's not even funny. My view on this is buy whatever the hell you want, if you think domestics are huge pieces of crap on wheels then #1, you're out of your mind and #2 go buy your import and I hope it ends up being a huge pile so you'll realize that you'll even get a lemon in your so perfect Camry. Quality in cars today is about even in every brand and don't rule out the fact that you might have an occasional problem but that's what warranty's for or you might get a lemon, stuff happens.

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    Re: Big Three, Japanese Brands "Equal" on Initial Quality

    Quote Originally Posted by DuSpinnst
    What a SHOCK! 3 of them already posted, all with negative comments.

    CR is still full of crap, even if they say GM is good. Thier methods are flawed, everyone knows that, so why do we care again?
    I've given up on these lame arguments, they go on at least once a day on this site, it's just time that i'll never get back. Like I said before, if people are stupid enough to think anything that comes out of their own country is crap, they can go ahead and buy the wonderful import and I hope it's a major lemon, maybe they'll think twice about the oh-so wonderful Toyota's and Honda's. I don't have anything against japanese car makers and you can go buy whatever the hell you want just as long as you realize that American cars are just as good when it comes to quality. It makes me laugh too because if Americans think their cars are crap, it shows the effort that goes into their work and they can't even do a good job compared to the rest of the world.

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