I have looked back to past Cadillac style, but you probably think those '47 fenders looked tacked on, an after thought...
The front fender 'blister' line wraps through the headlights (I've darkened the crease so you can see it on the headlight which was otherwise too bright for it to show properly), across the grille and around to the other front fender. So it does tie into the front.
Last edited by MonaroSS; 01-26-2010 at 04:18 PM.
I can understand your concern w/ GM's design direction of the XTS from these photos, because I felt the same way. But this past weekend I saw it at NAIAS and in person, the car is much more beautiful than the photos convey. The comments I overheard at the show regarding the car were almost all positive at well. Even the people I was with (some of which are not really GM or Caddy fans) thought the car was really nice. The headlights and interior were really nicely designed. Personally, I think it's a nice rival to the Audi A8. Simple yet elegant lines. The drivetrain is a seperate issue however.
Take a look at my avatar, isn't he attractive ? ;D
Something you non-designers should try to wrap you heads around is that no design will please everyone. If I, or anyone designing a car or even small modifications to a design, get 50% approval then that's a miracle. Human nature being what it is there would be fewer than a dozen designs on the road today that, if the world could be polled, would have more than 50% like the design. That’s why we have so much ‘choice’ in the market place, to cater to a wide range of personal tastes.
What percentage here likes the Camry? Yet the world's richest car company sees fit to continue to make it. Why, when it's so easy to redesign it so that everyone likes the look of it? Oh yes, that's right, because most people don't like ANY car design you care to mention. We all of course think that everyone should like what we like, but sadly they don't. Not in cars, in politics, in fashion, in food, or even who is really good looking.
When it comes to me "getting carried away sometimes" what you mean is I diverge from your particular taste in design, and that's all. I don't care if I do. I can't please everyone, I can't even please 50% of the people - even with a great design. And who’s to say it isn’t a great design just because you happen to be one of those people who don’t like that particular great design. The best car design by popular choice is often said to be the E-Type Jaguar, but lots of people don’t agree, but it’s still a great design even with those dissenters. Even if you were one who doesn’t like the E-Type, it’s still a great design because few designs ever get more than 50% approval.
And another thing to remember is that car companies spend 6 months contemplating a new design and have a team of dozens of highly skilled designers to help refine and execute that design, and that is also true of all the cars out there that you don't like. Me, I take 6 minutes to contemplate a chop and then up to 20 minutes executing it on my own.
So while I'm glad you expect me to meet your expectations for a car company team of designers, with whom you will likely statistically disagree with anyway, I may not be able to avoid coming up short in your eyes from time to time. But then it's just a hobby I enjoy, I’m not on someone’s payroll, and so I mostly do it to my own tastes. You can learn to chop yourself and then design to your own tastes - but don't expect many people to like your work just because you do, certainly nowhere near 50% will.
But don’t let that put you off. Be true to yourself and your own aesthetic preferences….
I have little problem with people disagreeing with all or part of what I may create, that's just healthy human diversity of taste. But him saying I "get carried away sometimes" can only be taken as a slight against me personally; and it ticked me off.
It's effectively saying that my designs would be better if I had more personal discipline and self-control so as to stop myself getting carried away...
He may be right.
But it's still an insult to say it.
No, actually I think my designs could be better if I let go and followed flights of fancy more often. You create more radical designs that people perhaps won't like that way, but when you do create something good it's more likely to be great.
That's the crux of the problem you are having with Welburn. I think Cadillac are being too safe, not wanting to displease anyone. But the trade off in not taking risk is that you are less likely to create something really special, perhaps even a modern classic.
And I know you want Cadillac to design modern classics like they once did....
MonaroSS, you have partly addressed one of my pet peeves - those who criticize everything without offering a positive alternative instead themselves. If he didn't like your chop, let's see HIS, and offer our opinions. Instead it's more criticism.
Don't take it personally, he can't do it better than you do, or as well either. So keep up the good work.
Most of us like it, and some of your designs look better than those of the car companies' designs.
Your chops add to the enjoyment of the related discussion, so ignore him, knowing that there are MANY who like it, compared to the few vocal critics.
I do welcome criticism when it gives some insight into what they actually dislike and why. I may not dislike it and would not change it, but then sometimes I may agree with them when they explain the problem and so I change it.
But simply saying you don't like something a person does as many do here, and not just to me but to all those who post their works of art in Readers Talent, is just frustrating.
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