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    Not a chop Not a photo

    There has been alot of discussion lately in another section of this site about chops vs Photoshop art, here is a sample of an illustration done with Adobe Illustrator and Adobe Photoshop. Just thought I would post it to show another form or use fro Photoshop.


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    Re: Not a chop Not a photo

    wow...how'd you make it?

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    Re: Not a chop Not a photo

    it's really just an updated version of an old illustration technique, start with an original photo , do a line drawing of it in Illustrator, place it in Photoshop, and "paint" it there, using brushes, fills, masks and adjustment techniques. Taks a considerable amount of time, but I have done many over the years.

    Glad you like it.

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    Re: Not a chop Not a photo

    Tooning I beleive this is called according to the photoshoping world.

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    Re: Not a chop Not a photo

    This is truly incredible, but I would still consider it a photochop.

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    Re: Not a chop Not a photo

    Thats pretty sweet looking, I like it!

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    Re: Not a chop Not a photo

    Rex, I respect your opinion but this absolutly NOT photochop, the main reason...there in no photo under the illustration.

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    Re: Not a chop Not a photo

    But a photo was used as a base.
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    Re: Not a chop Not a photo

    A photo was used for the line drawing, and used on the table as a reference, not as a layer... as a matter of fact I've been doing these since before PShop had layers (hate to admit that) layers didn't come along until version 4.0...I don't know how we did without them.

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    Anyway, I'd be happy to answer questions, but I really don't want to sound like I'm coming off like mrdetmet.

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    Re: Not a chop Not a photo

    Because you started with a photo, and not from scratch, I consider it a photochop, regardless if the original is still used or not. Same as if you use a pen and tracing paper and and then trace an image, the new picture can't be 100% considered original.

    It's no big deal what the technique is called by me, because your work looks great.

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    Re: Not a chop Not a photo

    Quote Originally Posted by Rex Raider
    Because you started with a photo, and not from scratch, I consider it a photochop, regardless if the original is still used or not. Same as if you use a pen and tracing paper and and then trace an image, the new picture can't be 100% considered original.

    It's no big deal what the technique is called by me, because your work looks great.
    Cool, I'm glad you like it...but, just for the sake of asking (and I'm not comparing myself to him) would you say the same about Norman Rockwell? I guess I would come to think of it.

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    Re: Not a chop Not a photo

    Although I know Rockwell's pictures from the Saturday Evening Post, I'm not sure what you are talking about in terms of his style. Did he copy the images from somewhere else?

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    Re: Not a chop Not a photo

    Quote Originally Posted by Rex Raider
    Although I know Rockwell's pictures from the Saturday Evening Post, I'm not sure what you are talking about in terms of his style. Did he copy the images from somewhere else?
    He used the same Illustration technique, of course before computers, I'm actually agree with you, but just saying that's why we call it illustration, not fine art and I suppose I find the term chop... well just not that nice., but I'll get over it. Anyway keep up the good work.

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    Re: Not a chop Not a photo

    Quote Originally Posted by mygraphix
    He used the same Illustration technique, of course before computers, I'm actually agree with you, but just saying that's why we call it illustration, not fine art and I suppose I find the term chop... well just not that nice., but I'll get over it. Anyway keep up the good work.
    I'd call that illustration. looks great, and very similar to what i do at work all day long. normally i just use reference and do not trace, but a lot of times a client wants a certain "object" that is traced exactly like this C5R but done entirely in illustartor.
    the illustartor drawings that i do for the contest and in my spare time are NOT traced nor do i use a base car for reference, i just draw. With the newer versions of illustartor you can get a lot of effects and looks of photoshop that are much easier to manipulate. i'd love to see some more of your photo/ill works.

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