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    Fixed the new Lincoln MKZ grill

    Looking at the new MKZ, I loved the split grill but people apparently hated it. I spent about 4 minutes in Microsoft paint and fixed up the grill to make a compromise. It's a little rough but hopefully gets the design across. Thoughts?

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    Re: Fixed the new Lincoln MKZ grill

    I don't know, what you've done doesn't look bad. But it doesn't look like it befits a luxury car, IMHO. I would like to see the original without the horizontal bars.

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    Re: Fixed the new Lincoln MKZ grill

    This is the original. I didn't do much, just connected the two grills together.

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    Re: Fixed the new Lincoln MKZ grill

    umm ... no offense (cuz I'm just waiting for a better donor photo to chop my own - got an idea of how to "reconcile" the old & new grilles ) but

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    ...maybe cuz I don't like the horizontal ("ribcage") grille?
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    Re: Fixed the new Lincoln MKZ grill

    I'm sorry, Wolfn, I meant I would like it if someone could remove the chrome bars from the original photo. Maybe give the original a honeycomb grille or something.

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    Re: Fixed the new Lincoln MKZ grill

    Quote Originally Posted by 2648562 View Post
    I don't know, what you've done doesn't look bad. But it doesn't look like it befits a luxury car, IMHO. I would like to see the original without the horizontal bars.
    imho the original "ribcage" doesn't befit a Luxury car either

    Quote Originally Posted by 2648562 View Post
    I'm sorry, Wolfn, I meant I would like it if someone could remove the chrome bars from the original photo. Maybe give the original a honeycomb grille or something.
    (hope you don't mind these quickie chops from FiN, Wolfn, tried to post thumbnails but they would link...)
    here's a blackout


    & a vertical slat transplant


    & while I'm at it; hidden headlites
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    Re: Fixed the new Lincoln MKZ grill

    Uhh now it looks like a Kia Optima
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    Re: Fixed the new Lincoln MKZ grill

    I'm getting a Toyotoa feeling about the changes:



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    Re: Fixed the new Lincoln MKZ grill

    Quote Originally Posted by Rex Raider View Post
    I'm getting a Toyota feeling about the changes:
    Or a little Kia Optima even....... (which is not a bad look)





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    Re: Fixed the new Lincoln MKZ grill

    Definitely Kia Optima!

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    Re: Fixed the new Lincoln MKZ grill

    in one word: no.

    There is nothing wrong with the grille graphic.

    The nose is very low-slung, which is what people are translating as an unflattering grille. However the grille itself is fine. It's the choice in nose shape, which is very _extremely_ tapered, instead of the more upright, drawn-upwards noses popular these days (and present on the current MKZ). MKS has a similar case of a low-slung nose. It is seemingly a deliberate choice on the part of Lincoln, but i am not sure it is truly translating from their minds and sketchbooks into the public's eye. Still waiting to see this car in person to judge.

    Second, the LED headlamps are TINY!!! They could not fit a standard projector + a reflector high beams - they are way undersized - something we are not used to - the proportions are offending our sensitivities as people used to a certain paradigm of cars design.

    The grille itself is beautifully chiseled, mechanically looking, I think it is a good basis for the future.

    BTW, Horbury once said (when introducing the Flex; of its Fairlane concept): "If I did not make some people uncomfortable, I did not do my job as a designer." In other words, the envelope has to be pushed some with each iteration. (As the Flex keeps demonstrating)

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    Re: Fixed the new Lincoln MKZ grill

    Quote Originally Posted by 2b2 View Post
    imho the original "ribcage" doesn't befit a Luxury car either


    (hope you don't mind these quickie chops from FiN, Wolfn, tried to post thumbnails but they would link...)
    here's a blackout


    & a vertical slat transplant


    & while I'm at it; hidden headlites
    Hmmn, the black gives the car a whole new vibe, but I don't think it's quite flashy enough. Maybe if the headlights were wider and the grille a bit narrower?

    The vertical bars seem to look better than the concept's, but it's sort of a toss up.

    Now, the hidden headlights... that could look really nice. I like that idea a lot.

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    Re: Fixed the new Lincoln MKZ grill

    TY re: the hidden HLs, 2648562
    imho it's practically a no brainer - if Fomoco has decided small is better for HLs, having Lincoln not go a step further to hidden is being too timid imho

    the black-out grille was mainly to show the weakness/fussiness of the grille shape
    & the vertical transplant was to show that the "ribcage" isN'T any improvement

    think I'll have to do my new "reconcile" grille on Wolfn's original photo
    just can't find a pic with (daylight) lighting to show off the hood sculptings that I want to eliminate while keeping the "L" shaped creases

    Quote Originally Posted by igor View Post
    There is nothing wrong with the grille graphic.
    It's the choice in nose shape, which is very _extremely_ tapered...
    i am not sure it is truly translating from their minds and sketchbooks into the public's eye...
    BTW, Horbury once said (when introducing the Flex; of its Fairlane concept): "If I did not make some people uncomfortable, I did not do my job as a designer." In other words, the envelope has to be pushed some with each iteration. (As the Flex keeps demonstrating)
    grille disagreement already stated
    my problem is more with the hood-fenders. which imho can keep tapering while still having a more squared off cross section (also pertains to the MKS) -- along those lines, think the dropped shoulderline MIGHT have some weirdness in person, esp. the way it arcs down'n'out from the greenhouse
    I'm also very concerned that the design staff has gone on a tangent and cant see that due to over-familiarity
    very much agree that "Great Art is not only difficult to achieve but to appreciate" (Beaudelaire?) BUT there's a huge difference between a challenging design and weirdness




    here's a quick "proof of concept" sorta
    the grille part is very unrealistic just to check feasibility, proportions, etc
    (yes, there probably ought to be some kind of frame around the StarLogo)
    might try a chopped-instead-crudely-drawn version when/IF more photos of the concept come out ... might not feel like bothering with the production model


    the idea for the grille (in part) is to "reconcile" vertical and horizontal elements,
    by changing the spacing and size/shape and number (rows vs columns) of the metal bits it will 'move' towards either a vertical or horizontal (OR GRID) Look at a distance;
    the metal bits could be rectangular & sharp cornered like piano keys (or quickie drawings)
    OR
    they could be a bit rounded...even shaped like solid Lincoln Stars & maybe have little rays joining them (= even more grid like)

    note: I tried to re-configure the hood too - took out a lot of angles/flutes/carving, while simplifying - tried my best to give a more 'square shouldered' look to the fenders
    without reducing its aerodynamics
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    the idea for the grille (in part) is to "reconcile" vertical and horizontal elements,
    by changing the spacing and size/shape and number (rows vs columns) of the metal bits it will 'move' towards either a vertical or horizontal (OR GRID) Look at a distance;
    the metal bits could be rectangular & sharp cornered like piano keys (or quickie drawings)
    OR
    they could be a bit rounded...even shaped like solid Lincoln Stars & maybe have little rays joining them (= even more grid like)

    note: I tried to re-configure the hood too - took out a lot of angles/flutes/carving, while simplifying - tried my best to give a more 'square shouldered' look to the fenders
    without reducing its aerodynamics
    I like your less "fussy" hood, and the personality the headlights have. I hope you'll spend some time with it in PS because I think you're really on to something with the smaller headlights and bolder grille.

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    Re: Fixed the new Lincoln MKZ grill

    THANKS, 2648562!

    meanwhile here's another, more 'open' and horizontal with a bodycolor backing for the StarLogo
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