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    America Shuns Non-Crew Cabs Like Never Before

    Once upon a time, crew cab pickups were for logging crews in the Pacific Northwest, not families. That’s obviously changed. Whereas the typical pickup configuration was a regular cab, long-bed setup (efficient!), times change, and with it the take rates of various truck configurations. In the eventful 2020 model year, it seems the buying public […]
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    Re: America Shuns Non-Crew Cabs Like Never Before

    I really don't think Americans are shunning non-crew cabs...the Automakers are driving demand by reducing output of non-crew cab pickups. We can't buy what isn't available. Same can be said re sedans. When dealerships stock their lots full of CUVs and base model sedans with a few overpriced top of the line trims, then of course buyers will spring for the CUV which you stock mostly in the moderately equipped range.
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    Re: America Shuns Non-Crew Cabs Like Never Before

    Quote Originally Posted by sdotjeezy View Post
    I really don't think Americans are shunning non-crew cabs...the Automakers are driving demand by reducing output of non-crew cab pickups. We can't buy what isn't available. Same can be said re sedans. When dealerships stock their lots full of CUVs and base model sedans with a few overpriced top of the line trims, then of course buyers will spring for the CUV which you stock mostly in the moderately equipped range.
    I have to agree with you on this one. I see it all the time around here as to what you say about the dealerships. It's like they're purposely trying to kill the sedan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1958carnut View Post
    I have to agree with you on this one. I see it all the time around here as to what you say about the dealerships. It's like they're purposely trying to kill the sedan.
    Yup, Like Chevrolet refusing to build the shortbed

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    Re: America Shuns Non-Crew Cabs Like Never Before

    I find the numbers quoted in the article extremely hard to believe.
    I've been looking at local dealer inventories about every other month since the '19 Silverado / Sierra came out, and ext cabs have always been around 80% of the mix (article says 18%). It's only in this last couple of months that the CCs have been more common... either GM got the mix numbers wrong for a year & a half, or for some reason my market is the inverse of the rest of the country.

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    Yup, Like Chevrolet refusing to build the shortbed
    Something like this? It's available in certain Middle Eastern countries and in Mexico.

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    Re: America Shuns Non-Crew Cabs Like Never Before

    Quote Originally Posted by sdotjeezy View Post
    I really don't think Americans are shunning non-crew cabs...the Automakers are driving demand by reducing output of non-crew cab pickups. We can't buy what isn't available. Same can be said re sedans. When dealerships stock their lots full of CUVs and base model sedans with a few overpriced top of the line trims, then of course buyers will spring for the CUV which you stock mostly in the moderately equipped range.
    "Back in the Day" Pick-up truck were used mostly for work, the bed and a cab for 2 or 3 got the most done, today many trucks are passenger vehicles, need more than one bench seat and more inside storage.

    I was on an industry call and one of the speakers was talking about car/truck mix, I chimed in............ 20 - 30 years ago a truck was a truck and a car was a car, SUV just starting (classified as a truck) and CUV's didn't exist. Today you can hardly by a car if you try; Buick GM's storied car nameplate makes no cars! GMC? Nope, Cadillac? A few low-volume, Chevy? Malibu and Camaro. Not much different at Ford, or FCA. The day the Trax and/or EcoSport was classified a truck was the day this information became irrelevant.


    Quote Originally Posted by 09W View Post
    I find the numbers quoted in the article extremely hard to believe.
    I've been looking at local dealer inventories about every other month since the '19 Silverado / Sierra came out, and ext cabs have always been around 80% of the mix (article says 18%). It's only in this last couple of months that the CCs have been more common... either GM got the mix numbers wrong for a year & a half, or for some reason my market is the inverse of the rest of the country.
    Facts are facts, Double-Cabs just sit there, while they turn the Crew-Cabs two or three times....................
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    A quick check of current national dealer inventory for F150,
    59,065 in total, 50,900 crew cabs, 5,760 extended cabs and 2,405 single cabs.
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    Re: America Shuns Non-Crew Cabs Like Never Before

    I'll clarify/correct my post.
    I'm only interested in a CC/standard box; THOSE have been in extremely short supply- vast vast majority of CCs are short boxes.
    Just starting to see CC/standards with regularity. That does speak to the 'passenger' demographic of full-size trucks.

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    Re: America Shuns Non-Crew Cabs Like Never Before

    Quote Originally Posted by 09W View Post
    I'll clarify/correct my post.
    I'm only interested in a CC/standard box; THOSE have been in extremely short supply- vast vast majority of CCs are short boxes.
    Just starting to see CC/standards with regularity. That does speak to the 'passenger' demographic of full-size trucks.
    Welcome to 1965. PUTs are the new full size 1950s-60s V8 sedans. Back to the Future.

    Also, to nit-pick the poor journalism in the headline, why write a headline with a double negative in there? Shuns. Non. Never. Triple negative.

    How about "Americans Like Crew Cabs"?
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    Re: America Shuns Non-Crew Cabs Like Never Before

    Quote Originally Posted by sdotjeezy View Post
    I really don't think Americans are shunning non-crew cabs...the Automakers are driving demand by reducing output of non-crew cab pickups. We can't buy what isn't available. Same can be said re sedans. When dealerships stock their lots full of CUVs and base model sedans with a few overpriced top of the line trims, then of course buyers will spring for the CUV which you stock mostly in the moderately equipped range.
    Exactly...reg cab short bed owner of a '17 Silverado right here. Was definitely thinking I would get the new body style a year or two after it was released. It appears unless I'm from Saudi Arabia or Mexico, that's not going to happen.

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    Weren't there CAFE issues with the RCSB truck that didn't make it worth selling here or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65 View Post
    Weren't there CAFE issues with the RCSB truck that didn't make it worth selling here or something?
    CAFE did have an effect on the RCSB trucks, but the double cab, extended cabs were less affected due to their longer overall length. RCSBs took a hit because their shorter length affected what category it fell under under CAFE reporting.
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    Re: America Shuns Non-Crew Cabs Like Never Before

    Quote Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65 View Post
    Weren't there CAFE issues with the RCSB truck that didn't make it worth selling here or something?
    Quote Originally Posted by sdotjeezy View Post
    CAFE did have an effect on the RCSB trucks, but the double cab, extended cabs were less affected due to their longer overall length. RCSBs took a hit because their shorter length affected what category it fell under under OSHA reporting.
    Yup, the current rules for CAFE contain provisions where fuel economy targets are a function of a vehicle’s footprint; the smaller the footprint, the tougher the standards are. Footprint is calculated by multiplying a vehicle's wheelbase by its track width.

    Here are the cutoff values for light trucks:

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    GM has a lot more production capacity for full sized trucks and utilities than Ford,
    that gave GM more freedom to build a more diverse inventory where as Ford was
    forced by limited capacity to bias as much production space as possible to crew cabs,
    that being so for both F150 plants and at Kentucky where SD, Expedition and Navigator
    are also built. GM has no such impediment by having a fourth plant dedicated to full sized utilities.

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