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    Next Generation Escalade

    The next generation Escalade is due out relatively soon. While all are here agree that it should be done to the highest most standards, i.e. interior execution, exterior execution, details, details, and details, the argument has come up to whether any off-road credibility should be added to the mix. Many have said "NO, Cadillac is not an off-road vehicle. They have no history off-road and should not pursue that route." I differed. I posited that "luxury", when it comes to SUV's, also includes the luxury/ability to keep going when the road runs out. Also, since the competition all have off-road credentials it is something that needs to be addressed.

    The latest in this market is the company known for making some of the finest luxury vehicles. These are not vehicles that would ever think of going off of the road. This is Rolls Royce.

    True, this is not serious off-roading shown, but it does give some indication of the possibilities.








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    Re: Next Generation Escalade

    This is going to make a great beater (winter car)!
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    Re: Next Generation Escalade

    Excess capability.

    The S Class has a lot more hp than is necessary and can handle better than anyone needs for a comfort oriented vehicle. Excess capability.

    The Escalade needs excess capability.

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    Re: Next Generation Escalade

    I feel below represents GM's view of luxury ( sample of interior materials and quality + even GM's Mixed-Material Strategy ) :


    where others think this is luxury ( even i think JDN thought so ):


    It will be interesting to see what comes out as escalade ...
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    Re: Next Generation Escalade

    I sincerely do not give even the slightest hoot about it being capable of taken off-road or not, but it's a $75,000+ SUV that supposedly might cross $100,000 to $120,000 or I think $140,000, so why not?

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    Re: Next Generation Escalade

    Escalade is a street truck. Urban pavement crusher. If you want an off road SUV, GMC will have you covered. I don't see a problem with this. Now if you want to say that it has X capability for off road, fine. But its sold and bought as a street truck.

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    Re: Next Generation Escalade

    Quote Originally Posted by dslay04 View Post
    Escalade is a street truck. Urban pavement crusher. If you want an off road SUV, GMC will have you covered. I don't see a problem with this. Now if you want to say that it has X capability for off road, fine. But its sold and bought as a street truck.
    This is basically how I feel.

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    Re: Next Generation Escalade

    Quote Originally Posted by sfbreh View Post
    This is basically how I feel.
    right, nobody is buying this and saying "Damn I can't wait to hit the mud pit."

    Escalade's problem is that it the oldest in the segment. Every other SUV has gotten upgrades for the interior, exterior, and mechanically. GM's biggest problem it that they rely on aftermarket upfitters for some of items they need to lead the segment. Escalade needed an ultra luxury 2 row variant years ago.

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    Re: Next Generation Escalade

    Quote Originally Posted by dslay04 View Post
    Escalade is a street truck. Urban pavement crusher. If you want an off road SUV, GMC will have you covered. I don't see a problem with this. Now if you want to say that it has X capability for off road, fine. But its sold and bought as a street truck.
    I would rather see Cadillac do an ultra-lux trim (kind of like RR's Autobiography, Volvo's Excellence, Lincoln's Black Label, etc.).

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    Re: Next Generation Escalade

    Quote Originally Posted by dslay04 View Post
    Escalade is a street truck. Urban pavement crusher. If you want an off road SUV, GMC will have you covered. I don't see a problem with this. Now if you want to say that it has X capability for off road, fine. But its sold and bought as a street truck.
    Agreed. Though GMC doesn't, but should have an off road SUV.

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    I would rather see Cadillac do an ultra-lux trim (kind of like RR's Autobiography, Volvo's Excellence, Lincoln's Black Label, etc.).
    ^ This. Either they need to up their game with the Platinum trim level, or they need an "Ultra" trim level above it. The brand needs its cache and its margins.

    Really as long as Escalade fixes the interior, goes IRS with some type of adjustable + softer suspension, fixes the third row/cargo packaging (which would happen with IRS), and just doesn't F it Up, it should be fine. They have the new 4.2L TT to throw in it plus the 10-speed, so the drivetrain should be good. I am not too worried about Escalade honestly. I do want them to keep pushing up market with it, and for god sake get a V-Sport version as well - I've only been clamoring for one on GMI for about 8 years now. The rest of Cadillac worries me more than Escalade.
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    Re: Next Generation Escalade

    Can't wait to see the new Escalade!

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    Re: Next Generation Escalade

    Leave the off road capability to GMC and Chevrolet. Cadillac and for that matter Buick as well are for the street, the ski resort and such.

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    Re: Next Generation Escalade

    I did once actually get my Escalade stuck in a mud pit by mistake.

    Tow guy was bewildered by the sight.
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    Escalade is Cadillac's SUV premier vehicle. Much like the the CT6 sedan. It should be the best of the best GM SUV, and should reflect what Cadillac is all about. Interior that is at least as good as anything up to a Rolls Royce, great safety, advanced infotainment, lighting, and power. Give it everything, and charge accordingly!

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    Re: Next Generation Escalade

    I'm just curious...what are the sales like for the GLS? Yesterday, while riding around town, I noticed "tons" of current Escalades and not one GLS.
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