Cadillac XT5 vs. Porsce Macan

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    Cadillac XT5 vs. Porsce Macan

    I know, the title sounds a little foolish considering the images both of these vehicles convey, but looking at the spec sheet, there's no reason Cadillac can't turn the XT5 into a legit Macan competitor with a V-Sport package.

    Cadillac XT5
    LENGTH:189.5"
    WIDTH:75"
    WHEELBASE:112.5"
    HEIGHT:66"
    WEIGHT:4,277lbs

    Porsche Macan
    LENGTH:185"
    WIDTH:76.1"
    WHEELBASE: 110.5"
    HEIGHT:64"
    WEIGHT:4,112lbs

    Dimensionally, these cars are very similar with the Cadillac weighing just slightly more despite being a little bigger in all dimensions. Throw in the 2WD version, and the Cadillac is a couple hundred pounds lighter. GM has been BMWing their power estimates lately, and I expect that that is what they've done in stating "310/270" figures for the XT5. I expect it to come in closer to 320/280, and if the AWD is as performance-oriented as has been hinted, we may see a sub-6s 0-60 out of the base 3.6. A V-Sport pushing 400/400 should be able to keep pace with the Macan Turbo's 4.6 time as long as it's not too porky.

    Mostly, aside from a Trackhawk Grand Cherokee (which I would buy the day it came out), I think performance SUVs are stupid, but where there's a niche, fill it; especially if Cadillac wants to keep pushing it's brand as the American BMW-killer. If Macan isn't their target, why keep up with this ultra-performance creed? I'm sure we'll see something more in line with an SQ5 than a Macan, but I think that's a waste.

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    Also, price ranges have been all over the place. XT5 will come in ~$42K base and crest $70K in Platinum and V-Sport...or so our Cadillac trainer says...

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    Re: Cadillac XT5 vs. Porsce Macan

    Even if it rivaled the performance I doubt it'd match the "feel", ending up much more like a Cadillac SQ5 as you mentioned rather than a Macan. With things like launch control and PDK, Porsche has several advantages. Plus the Cadillac's AWD system didn't seem particularly sporty. Sure it can shift maximum torque rearward but that doesn't actually make it a rear biased system.

    Doesn't matter though. It need not be a Macan slayer.

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    Re: Cadillac XT5 vs. Porsce Macan

    Targeting Macan is quite futile for Cadillac at this stage.
    Cadillac doesn't have the reputation for performance yet.

    Macan is designed to eat up asphalt. And they haven't even released the higher versions yet.

    Look at Cayenne Turbo S. That's a monster. Nothing short of a X5M or Range Rover Supercharged even comes close.

    Drive them. While the idea of a "performance SUV" seems stupid, it'll change your mind in about 3.2 seconds.

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    Re: Cadillac XT5 vs. Porsce Macan

    Porsce? Is that some new car company?
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    Re: Cadillac XT5 vs. Porsce Macan

    This is being made into something it isn't. The XT5 isn't a Macan competitor, even with 400 hp and AWD, for many reasons.

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    Re: Cadillac XT5 vs. Porsce Macan

    Not a Macan fighter but the comparison of two cars details were surprisng.

    A better Macan fighter would have to based off the ATS chassis. Imo
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    Re: Cadillac XT5 vs. Porsce Macan

    I think you're better off focusing on beating up the RX and MDX. Macan fighter can happen on Alpha or whatever the XT3 is

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    Re: Cadillac XT5 vs. Porsce Macan

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNewStandard View Post
    Also, price ranges have been all over the place. XT5 will come in ~$42K base and crest $70K in Platinum and V-Sport...or so our Cadillac trainer says...


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    Re: Cadillac XT5 vs. Porsce Macan

    The problem with GM vehicles are less width ex: compact 72" , midsize 76" and full size 80" is somewhat standard now.

    Other than that, a lot times GM vehicles are taller than needed ( min 2 inch - seems not applicable in this case). Most GM crossovers look big from out and having cramped interior.
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    Re: Cadillac XT5 vs. Porsce Macan

    Eeee no... XT5 is not a Macan competitor, not with that platform.
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    Re: Cadillac XT5 vs. Porsce Macan

    Quote Originally Posted by mgescuro View Post
    Targeting Macan is quite futile for Cadillac at this stage.
    Cadillac doesn't have the reputation for performance yet.

    Macan is designed to eat up asphalt. And they haven't even released the higher versions yet.

    Look at Cayenne Turbo S. That's a monster. Nothing short of a X5M or Range Rover Supercharged even comes close.

    Drive them. While the idea of a "performance SUV" seems stupid, it'll change your mind in about 3.2 seconds.
    The only Macans left on the board in terms of performance would be a Turbo S and I think they were planning a GTS, which would be more track-focused than the Turbo S and not as fast.

    I want to see a new Cayenne so badly... I wonder what they plan to build it on.

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    Re: Cadillac XT5 vs. Porsce Macan

    Quote Originally Posted by sfbreh View Post
    The only Macans left on the board in terms of performance would be a Turbo S and I think they were planning a GTS, which would be more track-focused than the Turbo S and not as fast.
    They did show the GTS recently, as a matter of fact.



    Quote Originally Posted by sfbreh View Post
    I want to see a new Cayenne so badly... I wonder what they plan to build it on.
    Well, I suppose they have a couple of options. They could use the MLB platform (Q7, Bentayga, plus a lot of other stuff). Otherwise a next generation off-roady platform specific to the Touareg-Cayenne could happen. At this point I might speculate that they'll go for the former option. It's cheaper (and with the VW Group situation, cheap is good anyway), plus Bentley supposedly reasoned that there would be adequate off-road ability with that platform. Surely enough for a contemporary Touraeg/Cayenne as they've moved away somewhat from being as seriously capable as they were originally.


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    Re: Cadillac XT5 vs. Porsce Macan

    Quote Originally Posted by Amphibian View Post
    They did show the GTS recently, as a matter of fact.





    Well, I suppose they have a couple of options. They could use the MLB platform (Q7, Bentayga, plus a lot of other stuff). Otherwise a next generation off-roady platform specific to the Touareg-Cayenne could happen. At this point I might speculate that they'll go for the former option. It's cheaper (and with the VW Group situation, cheap is good anyway), plus Bentley supposedly reasoned that there would be adequate off-road ability with that platform. Surely enough for a contemporary Touraeg/Cayenne as they've moved away somewhat from being as seriously capable as they were originally.

    I'm pretty sure Bentayga isn't an MLB. I think it's still PL71, just like the Urus. Those are all RWD or RWD-intended cars, MLB is FWD.

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    Re: Cadillac XT5 vs. Porsce Macan

    Quote Originally Posted by mgescuro View Post
    Targeting Macan is quite futile for Cadillac at this stage.
    Cadillac doesn't have the reputation for performance yet.

    Macan is designed to eat up asphalt. And they haven't even released the higher versions yet.

    Look at Cayenne Turbo S. That's a monster. Nothing short of a X5M or Range Rover Supercharged even comes close.

    Drive them. While the idea of a "performance SUV" seems stupid, it'll change your mind in about 3.2 seconds.
    They are all irrelevant to the industry as a whole. Pointless cars for Cadillac to pointlessly chase after.

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    Re: Cadillac XT5 vs. Porsce Macan

    Quote Originally Posted by sfbreh View Post
    I'm pretty sure Bentayga isn't an MLB. I think it's still PL71, just like the Urus. Those are all RWD or RWD-intended cars, MLB is FWD.
    Is it? I'm seeing references to both, but it seems mostly for MLB.

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