The Aura Why Must They Tease Us?

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    The Aura Why Must They Tease Us?

    So the plan on what the US will receive for the next Aura is still in question. They screwed up twice so they have a chance to redeem their mistakes but Bob Lutz has indicated that the Aura will be redone for the US market.

    Back in 2000 Saturn introduced its second model the LS soon to be known as L Series. This car was based on the Opel Vectra, which was introduced for 1996. So, Saturn started selling a car that was 4 years old when they introduced it.
    It ends production during 2004, but its replacement does not arrive on the market until late 2006 as a 2007. But the Vectra was introduced in 2002 so this time it is 4 years old again when it was introduced.
    A normal company would seek to consolidate resources and keep the Vectra and Aura as similar as possible. However they make the cars so different that there are very few similar parts. The Vectra has available navigation and it has a rear armrest. So why does the Aura not have these features and why is it on a wheelbase that is 7 inches longer. There are 3 vehicles on the LWB Epsilon architecture all for the same price and same features competing for the same customer. If it was on the SWB model then the Malibu could have been LWB since 04.
    Now there are rumors that the new Insignia will not be brought over as the Aura. Did they no learn the last two times.
    Maybe it is just the armchair CEOs that think this, but it still seems dumb.

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    Re: The Aura Why Must They Tease Us?

    It is so completely useless to redo a car just to be the Aura.
    Useless!!!

    The car already exists in Europe. It's called insignia.

    But some lamebrain at GM has decided that Insignia will be a Buick. Which is fine.

    But there goes Saturn's mission of being the American Opel. So where does that leave Saturn? Most likely with an inferior rebadge, damaging the Saturn name even more. It most likely will not have European performance or European driving or technology. It iwll just have looks. So why would people bother with a strictly imitation Euro car, when they can just go out and get a VW?

    Meh.

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    This is one of the my biggest problems with the GM head guys. They touted all about consolidation...and the first chance they get...they cut and run and do the opposite. They need to go...and the Insignia needs to come unchanged as a Saturn.
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    Re: The Aura Why Must They Tease Us?

    It ends production during 2004, but its replacement does not arrive on the market until late 2006 as a 2007. But the Vectra was introduced in 2002 so this time it is 4 years old again when it was introduced.
    VRONG! The Aura has NUFFINK AND NUFFINK to do with the Vectra. It doesn't share any part, not even a single engine or transmission. Aura's and Vectra's post-facelift front ends look SOMEWHAT similarly, but the platforms and all are different. The Vectra is on the European SWB Epsilon, Aura is on the LWB Epsilon. The platforms are incompatible - to the point of astonishing Bob Lutz when he wanted to put smaller Euro Ecotecs and Diesels in the Malibu and engineers discovered it is impossible.

    Which further subtantiates the point that Saturn's "mission" has failed from start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravada View Post
    VRONG! The Aura has NUFFINK AND NUFFINK to do with the Vectra. It doesn't share any part, not even a single engine or transmission. Aura's and Vectra's post-facelift front ends look SOMEWHAT similarly, but the platforms and all are different. The Vectra is on the European SWB Epsilon, Aura is on the LWB Epsilon. The platforms are incompatible - to the point of astonishing Bob Lutz when he wanted to put smaller Euro Ecotecs and Diesels in the Malibu and engineers discovered it is impossible.

    Which further subtantiates the point that Saturn's "mission" has failed from start.
    OK I was talking about the move to Epsilon, but that makes it even dumber.

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    Re: The Aura Why Must They Tease Us?

    Quote Originally Posted by mgescuro View Post
    It is so completely useless to redo a car just to be the Aura.
    Useless!!!

    The car already exists in Europe. It's called insignia.

    But some lamebrain at GM has decided that Insignia will be a Buick. Which is fine.

    But there goes Saturn's mission of being the American Opel. So where does that leave Saturn? Most likely with an inferior rebadge, damaging the Saturn name even more. It most likely will not have European performance or European driving or technology. It iwll just have looks. So why would people bother with a strictly imitation Euro car, when they can just go out and get a VW?

    Meh.
    No - its not fine, thats the whole point. Corporate infighting continues. Buick's needs are most aligned with China's needs. A relatively slow traffic filled system that favors comfortable, luxurious vehicles.

    Saturn should just be Opel. Favoring european vehicles and targeting VW buyers head on. Quick handling, polished cars favoring dynamics and fuel economy.

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    Quick handling, polished cars favoring dynamics and fuel economy.
    Sounds like a great idea for the new Pontiac.

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    This whole debable confirms to me what I always suspected, there is no tobaco in the smoke shown here. Its something more potent


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    Lmfao

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    Re: The Aura Why Must They Tease Us?

    Another thing I don't understand is why GM flat out refuses to price their cars inline with the competition. I understand wanting a value aspect but to price an excellent car such as the CTS $9000 lower than its competition is absurd. I know it is slightly smaller on the inside and it doesn't have all the features, but why doesn't it.
    Back to the Aura if they bring it over as the Regal it will be priced to low to be a luxury sedan and too low to give the Aura significant breathing room.
    The Insignia has engines that would work great here. The 1.6 turbo with 178 HP would work great as a base engine providing power and efficiency, with 30 combined mpg. As a mid level engine use the 2.0 turbo 217 HP engine with about 26-27 combined mpg, but I think that the 2.8 turbo could be supplanted with the 3.0 DI, this should be able to provide better fuel economy based on recent news. If it does not then stick with the 2.8. The prices are lower because GM vehicles do not have the necessary features to compete, so why did it take management until 2008 to realize this with the 'Nox/Terrain.

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    Re: The Aura Why Must They Tease Us?

    Maybe this is the writing on the wall for Saturn's demise. If they're going to dump a brand, it makes the most sense since it has the fewest dealers.

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