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    Ohioís new $100 fee for hybrids and $200 fee for electric vehicles go into effect nex

    Updated Dec 27, 2019;Posted Dec 27, 2019

    By Andrew J. Tobias, cleveland.com
    COLUMBUS, Ohio ó Starting next week, owners of of hybrid and electric vehicles in Ohio will owe more money when they renew their vehicle registrations.

    Starting on Wednesday, Jan. 1, higher annual registration fees ó $100 for standard hybrids and $200 for electric vehicles and plug-in hybrids ó go into effect. Thatís a substantial increase over current annual registration fees, which for passenger vehicles start at $34.50 and can run more, depending on where you live.

    The new fees were part of the most recent state transportation budget bill, passed by state lawmakers and signed by Gov. Mike DeWine in April. They were created to accompany a hike in the stateís gas tax ó 10.5 cents for conventional gas and 19 cents for diesel ó to pay for road and bridge construction and upkeep. State lawmakers reasoned that if conventional vehicle owners were forced to pay more at the pump, the fees would make sure electric and hybrid vehicle owners paid more, too.

    The new fees are expected to cost hybrid and electric owners an extra $15.8 million a year, according to the nonpartisan Legislative Service Commission, money that will be split between the stateís highway operating fund and local governments.

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    Re: Ohioís new $100 fee for hybrids and $200 fee for electric vehicles go into effect

    What do they do with all the money they already collect?

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    Good thing I bought an EV to save money, WOO HOO!!
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    Re: Ohioís new $100 fee for hybrids and $200 fee for electric vehicles go into effect

    Quote Originally Posted by Neanderthal View Post
    Updated Dec 27, 2019;Posted Dec 27, 2019

    By Andrew J. Tobias, cleveland.com
    COLUMBUS, Ohio ó Starting next week, owners of of hybrid and electric vehicles in Ohio will owe more money when they renew their vehicle registrations.

    Starting on Wednesday, Jan. 1, higher annual registration fees ó $100 for standard hybrids and $200 for electric vehicles and plug-in hybrids ó go into effect. Thatís a substantial increase over current annual registration fees, which for passenger vehicles start at $34.50 and can run more, depending on where you live.

    The new fees were part of the most recent state transportation budget bill, passed by state lawmakers and signed by Gov. Mike DeWine in April. They were created to accompany a hike in the stateís gas tax ó 10.5 cents for conventional gas and 19 cents for diesel ó to pay for road and bridge construction and upkeep. State lawmakers reasoned that if conventional vehicle owners were forced to pay more at the pump, the fees would make sure electric and hybrid vehicle owners paid more, too.

    The new fees are expected to cost hybrid and electric owners an extra $15.8 million a year, according to the nonpartisan Legislative Service Commission, money that will be split between the stateís highway operating fund and local governments.

    https://www.cleveland.com/open/2019/...next-week.html


    WOWZA; that is a huge increase!

    A little fuzzy-math.................

    $100/year = $8.33/month and the gas tax went up 10.5 cents, which means you'd have to burn ~79 gallons to pay an additional $8.33.

    79 gallons at 25/mpg is 1,975 miles in a month, double the national average! Clearly a little "catch-up".

    Not to mention, most Hybrids aren't going to save you enough to offset the extra $100 fee.

    EV's have to pay $16.66 extra a month in gas-taxes, for the gas they don't burn!

    The irony in all this (for me) is the only roads I ever drive on in Ohio are US Interstates or Toll Roads, have to make sure I top-up in Michigan so I can make it through without a stop for gas.


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    Re: Ohioís new $100 fee for hybrids and $200 fee for electric vehicles go into effect

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    WOWZA; that is a huge increase!

    A little fuzzy-math.................

    $100/year = $8.33/month and the gas tax went up 10.5 cents, which means you'd have to burn ~79 gallons to pay an additional $8.33.

    79 gallons at 25/mpg is 1,975 miles in a month, double the national average! Clearly a little "catch-up".

    Not to mention, most Hybrids aren't going to save you enough to offset the extra $100 fee.

    EV's have to pay $16.66 extra a month in gas-taxes, for the gas they don't burn!

    The irony in all this (for me) is the only roads I ever drive on in Ohio are US Interstates or Toll Roads, have to make sure I top-up in Michigan so I can make it through without a stop for gas.


    I believe Ohio gas is still quite a bit cheaper than Michigan gas. Didn't the Michigan governator push through three $0.25/gal stepped increases? Ohio gas tax went up about 10 cents, as Vagon says.
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    Re: Ohioís new $100 fee for hybrids and $200 fee for electric vehicles go into effect

    Quote Originally Posted by Neanderthal View Post
    I believe Ohio gas is still quite a bit cheaper than Michigan gas. Didn't the governator push through three $0.25/gal stepped increases?
    Total now in Ohio is 38.5, increase was around 10c. Probably about right. Assume a driver drives 12K/year, 200 is 1.66c/mile. At 38.5c/gallon and assume a fleet average of 22 mpg that is 1,74c/mile. Ohio is smart, as EV's get adopted, they will need replacement revenue for roads/bridges. Most states have annual inspections, I'd prefer they fix the EV rate of x cents per mile-ton. That way heavier cars/trucks get a higher tax. Works for EV semi's if they ever come to pass.

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    At some point I expect Pa to do the same. Our gas tax is 77 cents, 18 for the feds and 59 for the state. So $7.70 for every 10 gallons I buy. Iíve used about 960 gallons in 102k. Iíve averaged 105 mpg for the 6.5 yrs Iíve owned it. Iíve only used 1/3 of the gas i could have used, assuming 35 mpg at best, at 25 mpg then Iíve only used 1/4 of the gas I could have.

    So looking at what I could have used , $100.00 would not be to bad. Road and bridge repair donít come cheap. I wonít cry when it happens. So far Iíve saved about $100 a month in gas costs. So Iím way ahead in my savings.
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    Re: Ohioís new $100 fee for hybrids and $200 fee for electric vehicles go into effect

    Quote Originally Posted by Neanderthal View Post
    I believe Ohio gas is still quite a bit cheaper than Michigan gas. Didn't the Michigan governator push through three $0.25/gal stepped increases? Ohio gas tax went up about 10 cents, as Vagon says.
    So far "Jenny 2.0" isn't having as much luck piling taxes on us, but no-worry she'll keep trying, she won on "fix the damn roads" then rolled-out a 45 cent increase, so far has gone nowhere!


    This looks accurate with regard to gas taxes by state: https://taxfoundation.org/state-gas-tax-rates-2019/
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    Re: Ohioís new $100 fee for hybrids and $200 fee for electric vehicles go into effect

    Smart move on Ohio's part. Here's a map showing states that impose annual or biennial fees for registering hybrid and/or plug-in vehicles:



    Note: Not shown on this map is Illinois' $100 annual fee for EV, which took effect July 1, 2019.
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    Re: Ohioís new $100 fee for hybrids and $200 fee for electric vehicles go into effect

    Quote Originally Posted by gkr778 View Post
    Note: Not shown on this map is Illinois' $100 annual fee for EV, which took effect July 1, 2019.
    No extra charge in IL for a Volt/ELR, which for many people may as well be an EV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eaton53 View Post
    No extra charge in IL for a Volt/ELR, which for many people may as well be an EV.
    Correct; the $100 annual fee in Illinois applies to "all electric vehicles", "in lieu of fuel taxes".

    Illinois also increased gasoline and road diesel fuel taxes in 2019.
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    Re: Ohioís new $100 fee for hybrids and $200 fee for electric vehicles go into effect

    Quote Originally Posted by gkr778 View Post
    Correct; the $100 annual fee in Illinois applies to "all electric vehicles", "in lieu of fuel taxes".

    Illinois also increased gasoline and road diesel fuel taxes in 2019.
    I get fuel in Illinois quite often.
    The price of fuel fluctuates enough that the tax increase isn't all that noticable.
    It also hadn't been raised in a long time.

    IL is going to stop allowing trade ins from reducing sales taxes on cars in a few days.
    People who trade in newer cars are going to notice that. It's something I've never done.
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    Re: Ohioís new $100 fee for hybrids and $200 fee for electric vehicles go into effect

    Quote Originally Posted by gkr778 View Post
    Correct; the $100 annual fee in Illinois applies to "all electric vehicles", "in lieu of fuel taxes".

    Illinois also increased gasoline and road diesel fuel taxes in 2019.
    So apparently the "EV Romance" is waning, at the Federal and State level?


    Quote Originally Posted by eaton53 View Post
    I get fuel in Illinois quite often.
    The price of fuel fluctuates enough that the tax increase isn't all that noticeable.
    It also hadn't been raised in a long time.

    IL is going to stop allowing trade ins from reducing sales taxes on cars in a few days.
    People who trade in newer cars are going to notice that. It's something I've never done.
    Drip...drip...drip! Like the frog that's being boiled................ "I didn't even notice"

    That is a big a deal, they've talked add that tax deduction in Michigan, but never happened.

    A $40,000 car with a $20,000 trade; means an additional $1,260 in taxes in IL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eaton53 View Post
    I get fuel in Illinois quite often.
    The price of fuel fluctuates enough that the tax increase isn't all that noticable.
    It also hadn't been raised in a long time.

    IL is going to stop allowing trade ins from reducing sales taxes on cars in a few days.
    People who trade in newer cars are going to notice that. It's something I've never done.
    TX allows the trade to reduce sales tax. Saved me 2500 in tax this time. It is not an insignificant amount.

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    Re: Ohioís new $100 fee for hybrids and $200 fee for electric vehicles go into effect

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    So apparently the "EV Romance" is waning, at the Federal and State level?




    Drip...drip...drip! Like the frog that's being boiled................ "I didn't even notice"

    That is a big a deal, they've talked add that tax deduction in Michigan, but never happened.

    A $40,000 car with a $20,000 trade; means an additional $1,260 in taxes in IL.
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    TX allows the trade to reduce sales tax. Saved me 2500 in tax this time. It is not an insignificant amount.
    Not allowing that tax credit really is a royal screw job.

    The only states that DO NOT currently give a tax credit as of February 2019 are:

    California
    District of Columbia
    Hawaii
    Kentucky
    Michigan
    Montana
    Virginia
    If you live in one of these states, you have more incentive to sell your car to a private party.

    http://www.realcartips.com/selling/0...x-credit.shtml
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