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    Re: If Hyundai sold the CTS and Cadillac sold the Genesis, which car would sell more?

    Quote Originally Posted by matt.w View Post
    If Cadillac (or Hyundai) sold the CTS and Genesis side-by-side, which would sell more?
    Now to answer your question, if both were sold as Cadillacs, I think the Genesis would sell better. Not because it's a better car, but because it's a slightly bigger, softer car that has more in common with what Cadillacs have historically been.
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    Re: If Hyundai sold the CTS and Cadillac sold the Genesis, which car would sell more?

    Cadillac.

    Because in the end...it's still a Hyundai. Not my words, that's what practically everyone I know who has seen a Genesis has told me.
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    Re: CTS vs. Genesis, Round 2

    Quote Originally Posted by calgaryhhr View Post
    Probably the cheaper one.
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    Re: If Hyundai sold the CTS and Cadillac sold the Genesis, which car would sell more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amphibian View Post
    Hyundai never got away with it. Everyone and their mother has complained that the Genny looks like an Infiniti-Mercedes-Lexus-BMW-something since day one.
    Sure, folks have been saying it... I'm one of them... But it hasn't stopped the positive press for Hyundai. In my opinion, Cadillac would have been torn a new one in the automotive press had they released the Genesis as is... And it would have been deserved.

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    Re: CTS vs. Genesis, Round 2

    Quote Originally Posted by calgaryhhr View Post
    Probably the cheaper one.
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    Re: CTS vs. Genesis, Round 2

    Quote Originally Posted by calgaryhhr View Post
    Probably the cheaper one.
    They're in roughly the same price range, mid 30's to mid 40's. CTS tops out more, but it looks to me like a non-factor.

    I like this thought:

    Quote Originally Posted by tbirderic View Post
    Now to answer your question, if both were sold as Cadillacs, I think the Genesis would sell better. Not because it's a better car, but because it's a slightly bigger, softer car that has more in common with what Cadillacs have historically been.
    The comparison is very flawed and unequal, but it would be an interesting test to see how the definition of Cadillac has changed since A&S and the V series, if at all.

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    Re: CTS vs. Genesis, Round 2

    Quote Originally Posted by matt.w View Post
    They're in roughly the same price range, mid 30's to mid 40's. CTS tops out more, but it looks to me like a non-factor.

    I like this thought:



    The comparison is very flawed and unequal, but it would be an interesting test to see how the definition of Cadillac has changed since A&S and the V series, if at all.
    I'm sure it has changed quite a bit in the last ten years, which makes it even more difficult to succinctly answer hypothetical questions like these!

    Take the CTS for example. Why do people buy it? Do customers buy it because it's a great American sport sedan, or do they buy it simply because it's the cheapest way to get into a Cadillac sedan? I'm sure plenty are buying the car simply for the badge on the hood, and are completely blind to the CTS' merits or shortcomings, though to be fair that criticism could also be leveled at luxury buyers in general.
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    Re: CTS vs. Genesis, Round 2

    Lower priced models typically out sell higher priced models.

    I would like to see a proper RWD model from Cadillac above the CTS. A large A&S sedan is needed by Caddy. The dull styling of the Genesis do nothing for me.

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    Re: CTS vs. Genesis, Round 2

    The Genesis is nothing more than combined copies of Mercedes, Lexus, Acura, and BMW previous years styling. It's not bad looking, but it doesn't look modern or cutting edge. The CTS, on the other hand, looks like nothing else.

    Placing a Caddy badge on the Genesis would do nothing for its sales. It's a flop, period.

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    Re: CTS vs. Genesis, Round 2

    I think the only thing the Genesis has going for it is the option of a DOHC V8, and the warranty.

    The only reason its a plus for the Genesis isn't because I feel Cadillac needs a DOHC V8, but because I think the CTS needs a midlevel V8 in between the 3.6 and V-Series.

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    Re: CTS vs. Genesis, Round 2

    The current CTS has aged rapidly, but it's still a lot more interesting than the Genesis. The Cadillac brand also has far more weight, which translates into value for most buyers.

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    Re: If Hyundai sold the CTS and Cadillac sold the Genesis, which car would sell more?

    Cadillac can definitely pull off the Genesis, Hyundai can't pull off a CTS. Sorry. Caddy wins my Vote.
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    Re: If Hyundai sold the CTS and Cadillac sold the Genesis, which car would sell more?

    This poll is inherently flawed. Why? because some will answer thinking the Cadillac genesis will sell more because it's a Cadillac, and others will answer Cadillac because they feel the genesis is a better car than the CTS. These 2 groups are not giving the same answer, tho it may appear otherwise.

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    Re: CTS vs. Genesis, Round 2

    CTS hands down. The Genesis is a fake nothing car. A shameless BMW/Benz clone that's not fooling anyone but it's maker.
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    Re: CTS vs. Genesis, Round 2

    Cadillac already sold the CTS alongside a larger, roomier RWD luxury sedan that offered a V6 and a V8 engine:



    The CTS sold better than the STS, too. But it was cheaper which has me leaning to agree with calgaryhhr. STS and Genesis were very comparable - the exterior and interior dimensions are very close between them, even the engines:

    2010 STS 3.6L V6: 302 hp, 272 lb-ft
    2010 Genesis 3.8L V6: 290 hp, 264 lb-ft

    2010 STS 4.6L V8: 320 hp, 315 lb-ft
    2010 Genesis 4.6L V8: 385 hp, 333 lb-ft

    Not sure of the features difference between the two, but the Genesis is about $12,000 cheaper than the STS V6. Can't really compare sales since I don't know if/where Hyundai breaks out Genesis coupe and sedan sales.
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