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    Re: HaHaHaHaHa - Ford Pop Can Trucks are flailing and failing???....

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGinNC View Post
    LOL, the GM trucks have had that feature since '99.
    Interesting, never owned one actually. My GM truck experiences have been limited to 84, 85, 87, 88 and 94.
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    Re: HaHaHaHaHa - Ford Pop Can Trucks are flailing and failing???....

    The fleets I work with have ~30 or so 2015 F150's. NONE have the EB as they wont order any more. All 5.0L XLT grade trucks, so far so good, the drivers aren't complaining and trucks are holding up well. They rack up 100k a year so it won't be long to get some durability reports over a round of Golf with the truck boss.

    I'm thoroughly enjoying my 2015 GM 2500HD and have no issues to report. The new Ford looks awkward to my eyes, the Sierra looks like a supermodel in comparison. I do give a few points to the Fords interior though, looks fantastic and has a quality feel.

    I really have a feel the F150 never was the breakthrough Ford hoped it would be. Even losing a few comparison tests along the way.

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    Re: HaHaHaHaHa - Ford Pop Can Trucks are flailing and failing???....

    Quote Originally Posted by chinamonty View Post
    I have to laugh at some comments regarding aluminium in trucks. For a start it is not aluminium, it is an aluminium alloy - oyu know has Molybdenum etc . Wings on aircraft are often made of aluminium alloys. The ones used in the struts are very different to the ones used in the outer surfaces. Its like wood- balsa is very different to teak but both are wood.
    Also I understand that F150 have had an aluminium bonnet (hood) since about 1997. What problems have come to haunt Ford from that -any?
    Please understand that the hood will be subjected to very little road debris and icy road treatments. The underbody, lower doors, fender wells etc, will be exposed to things the hood will not see. The corrosion won't happen overnight, but over time, it WILL. In most cases, it'll probably take longer than normal steel panel to corrode through. But it will unless owner are diligent about keeping the underbody clean. Additionally, aluminum is susceptible to cracking. I'm sure Ford has thought through these things, but it will take time to change the mindset of many consumers.

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    Re: HaHaHaHaHa - Ford Pop Can Trucks are flailing and failing???....

    Quote Originally Posted by paul8488 View Post
    Why do you hate Dan Ackerson so much? Upset that Ford thought of aluminum before Mr. Coke Can did?
    paul, get real. I'll do my part to help Ford increase F-150 production.



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    Re: HaHaHaHaHa - Ford Pop Can Trucks are flailing and failing???....

    And when GM goes aluminum?...

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    Re: HaHaHaHaHa - Ford Pop Can Trucks are flailing and failing???....

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGinNC View Post
    And when GM goes aluminum?...

    (as it's been reported they will in a few years)
    Whatever the Reynolds wrap rep says about GM does not count.


    GM has ready access to the best nano-structured high-strength steel technology available.
    Why do you think there is so little difference in weight between the Ford and GM trucks?
    Ford had to do something and it was pop can worthy.



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    http://www.hardworkingtrucks.com/gm-...ept-silverado/
    http://www.autoblog.com/2012/08/07/g...ght-nanosteel/
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    Re: HaHaHaHaHa - Ford Pop Can Trucks are flailing and failing???....

    It's funny how he put a picture of an aluminum can, because aluminum cans are flimsy...
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    Re: HaHaHaHaHa - Ford Pop Can Trucks are flailing and failing???....

    Quote Originally Posted by pont3 View Post
    Please understand that the hood will be subjected to very little road debris and icy road treatments. The underbody, lower doors, fender wells etc, will be exposed to things the hood will not see. The corrosion won't happen overnight, but over time, it WILL. In most cases, it'll probably take longer than normal steel panel to corrode through. But it will unless owner are diligent about keeping the underbody clean. Additionally, aluminum is susceptible to cracking. I'm sure Ford has thought through these things, but it will take time to change the mindset of many consumers.
    The hood will be subject to more changes in temperature though. The engine heating up an icy cold hood, or rain cooling down a warm hood. Corrosion to bare aluminium happens where it meets other metals mainly otherwise no planes would be flying due to corrosion. Aluminium eventually turns to dust in the same way iron does (one to aluminium oxide the other to ferric oxide or rust). It is just a matter of treating each metal in appropriate way during manufacture and repair. You need a suitable etch primer when you paint aluminium and good old BMS10-11 or Boeing green etch primer did the job for a long time (and maybe is still used). Your point about cracking is valid and that is why the selection of alloy is important as some are more susceptible than others and I am sure Ford have done their homework (or at least copied what Aston-Martin already knew).
    Here is a listing of manufacturers who use aluminium in cars (I don't know if it is just for America or not but it seems reasonable:-
    http://www.paintgages.com/List-of-Ca...anels-s/51.htm
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    Wish I had grabbed a picture of that rusty nail I saw outside the other day...
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    Re: HaHaHaHaHa - Ford Pop Can Trucks are flailing and failing???....

    Quote Originally Posted by plane View Post
    Whatever the Reynolds wrap rep says about GM does not count.


    GM has ready access to the best nano-structured high-strength steel technology available.
    Why do you think there is so little difference in weight between the Ford and GM trucks?
    Ford had to do something and it was pop can worthy.



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    http://www.hardworkingtrucks.com/gm-...ept-silverado/
    http://www.autoblog.com/2012/08/07/g...ght-nanosteel/
    http://www.repairerdrivennews.com/20...lision-repair/
    That is a good looking truck

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    Re: HaHaHaHaHa - Ford Pop Can Trucks are flailing and failing???....

    Quote Originally Posted by paul8488 View Post
    It's funny how he put a picture of an aluminum can, because aluminum cans are flimsy...


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    Re: HaHaHaHaHa - Ford Pop Can Trucks are flailing and failing???....

    Quote Originally Posted by fastrehotrods View Post
    The Fords have improved greatly it looks like. Finally got rid of the odd cheap looking round vents and huge flat surfaces. And glad I'm not the only one not impressed with the GM interiors. Too many odd shapes and angles, and I don't like the way that the dash looks like it's giving birth and pushing out that center pod.
    I had a 2014 Silverado for and "extended test drive" (i.e. 3 weeks) I think I actually got over the dash near the end, for me, the two biggest bug-a-boo for the GM interiors was the small/rubberized buttons on the steering wheel; too small & seem cheap and the lack of push-button start.

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    Re: HaHaHaHaHa - Ford Pop Can Trucks are flailing and failing???....

    Quote Originally Posted by plane View Post
    Whatever the Reynolds wrap rep says about GM does not count.


    GM has ready access to the best nano-structured high-strength steel technology available.
    Why do you think there is so little difference in weight between the Ford and GM trucks?
    Because the cabs are a lot smaller?


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