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    Crosswind Sensitivity

    Of all the cars I've owned in the last few years, this Charger is the most sensitive to blowing around. That doesn't make sense to me, it's the heaviest car I've owned and its aero is somewhere around .30.

    I took it to the dealer and they checked the alignment. They said the only significant adjustment was front toe.
    Left was 0.49* and they adjusted it to 0.11*. Spec is 0.00-0.20*
    Right was -0.21*, adjusted to 0.18*. Spec is the same as the left.

    The car still blows around, we're having high winds for a few days. Is this common on the Chargers (and Challengers and 300s)? My previous 2800 lb. Kia Soul was steady as a rock at any speed in any conditions, and it's shaped like a box.

    Tires?
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    Re: Crosswind Sensitivity

    My Mercedes did that after I bought it. Then I noticed one of the tires was inflated to 2.0 PSI (really! runflat) and the rest were still quite flat (15 psi) Pumped them up and the car was like a cruise missile.



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    Re: Crosswind Sensitivity

    Quote Originally Posted by Smaart Aas Saabr View Post
    My Mercedes did that after I bought it. Then I noticed one of the tires was inflated to 2.0 PSI (really! runflat) and the rest were still quite flat (15 psi) Pumped them up and the car was like a cruise missile.
    Forgot to mention the TP, which is also the first thing the dealer checked. I keep it around 37 right now. Check it every couple of weeks.

    I wish it were that.
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    Re: Crosswind Sensitivity

    Hmmm I was gonna suggest tire pressure. Maybe take another Charger for a spin while you are having windy days and take it from there.

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    Tires make a huge difference as well.

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    Re: Crosswind Sensitivity

    bad camber settings will make a vehicle dance around on the road! did your dealer check that?

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    Re: Crosswind Sensitivity

    Car was aligned to spec. Camber settings were changed slightly.
    There is no caster setting on these cars.
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    Those toe settings seemed to be off quite a bit.

    You probably have the Michelin Energy Savers. Not the best tire they make.


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    Re: Crosswind Sensitivity

    ^^Ten-fo, Denali.

    I realize those are not the World's Finest Example of Michelin technology. I was hoping I could get away with them.
    Typically I replace the new car tires first thing. Because for some reason most makers supply their new cars with 2nd rate tires.

    My 200 had Primacy MXV4, the first set of fine tires I've had on a new or used car in a long long long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neanderthal View Post
    ^^Ten-fo, Denali.

    I realize those are not the World's Finest Example of Michelin technology. I was hoping I could get away with them.
    Typically I replace the new car tires first thing. Because for some reason most makers supply their new cars with 2nd rate tires.

    My 200 had Primacy MXV4, the first set of fine tires I've had on a new or used car in a long long long time.
    Yea we've went over this many 'a time, usually woth the scourge that is the Goodyear Eagle RS-A.

    The Equinox came with Michelin Latitude Tours from the factory. I replaced them with the Bridgestone Turanza Serenity Plus, went from a T to V speed rating, and a 75k warranty. They are a fantastic tire, and a great improvement over the already solid Michelins.

    And I did not say that because Im a paid Bridgestone group employee, I said it because they are great tires.


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    Re: Crosswind Sensitivity

    Quote Originally Posted by Smaart Aas Saabr View Post
    Does it tramline on grooves on the road, or just the wind?
    No, no tramming. Other than the slight wander and the wind sensitivity I have no issues with the car/tires.

    As I said, this may well be a function of weight distribution. You can get stability and understeer with 60/40, or a little less stability and more neutral steer with 51/49.

    Quote Originally Posted by mrDenali View Post
    Yea we've went over this many 'a time, usually woth the scourge that is the Goodyear Eagle RS-A.

    The Equinox came with Michelin Latitude Tours from the factory. I replaced them with the Bridgestone Turanza Serenity Plus, went from a T to V speed rating, and a 75k warranty. They are a fantastic tire, and a great improvement over the already solid Michelins.

    And I did not say that because Im a paid Bridgestone group employee, I said it because they are great tires.


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    RS-A LOL. My wife had a set on her 99 Sebring V6 coupe. We had a big blizzard (for Down South, 4-5") and it stopped traffic EVERYWHERE. It took me four hours to drive 16 miles home.

    My wife got stuck behind a line of cars that couldn't go up a hill. A van in front caught fire.
    She hoofed it home, a couple of miles. Yes, my wife DID wear combat boots.

    We picked the Sebring up in the morning. Those ******* RS-As were like driving on cardboard tires. Almost zero traction. Fortunately I was growed up in the Great Norff Country so we got the car home anyway.

    (Let me take this opportunity to thank the late Walter Koenig, who was my Winter Driving Charge On Regardless role model. I learned a lot just by watching him blow through 2-3' berms in his Bonneville. Momentum is your friend!)

    And makers STILL USE those damned tires.
    Formula has likely changed over the years. Net effect hasn't.

    I just spent an hour or so at TR and other tire sites. The Conti ProContact look like they might fill the bill, in 235.60.17 (vs. OE 215.65.17). Perhaps I can get the Chrysler dealer to give me a decent allowance on the Michelin hippie (aka Green, man) Eco OEs.
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    Conti Procontact or Purecontact? The Purecontacts are good from what Ive heard, the Procontact is garbage.


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    Re: Crosswind Sensitivity

    ProContact. I didn't see any PureContacts there. Pro got good TR test results, good customer feedback, and good feedback at TireBuyer.

    Why are they garbage?

    EDIT: Per TR tests, both the Pro and Pure did quite well, standing out in the wet and winter tests.

    There's sometimes considerable discrepancy between driver feedback and TR testing. I give the nod to the track tests, as there's no way to quantify or qualify the driver grading scales, expecially when stretched over thousands of drivers.

    As always, the proof is in the pudding.
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    Re: Crosswind Sensitivity

    It's FWD vs. RWD. Simple. Easy peezey.
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