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    Cars Most Likely to Need an Engine Rebuild

    Consumer Reports survey data show the models most at risk for this expensive problem

    By Jeff S. Bartlett
    May 30, 2020

    The common concern with cars as they age is dependability—not only that they may not get you to work one day but also that a catastrophic failure could cost thousands of dollars. Major problems are rare in general, but they do happen.

    To understand how often such problems occurred, we analyzed data on older models from our Annual Autos Surveys to see which have the highest problem rates for major systems that often require expensive repairs.

    Three problems areas stood out: engine, head gasket, and transmission. With some models, these problems occur with surprising frequency at a certain age and mileage.

    Engine problems are among the greatest mechanical nightmares for their inconvenience, expense, and time to repair. We found that there are more than a dozen older models with problems serious enough to require engine rebuilds.

    “Engine failure can be caused by many things,” says John Ibbotson, Consumer Reports’ chief mechanic. “Some engine rebuilds are needed due to low compression from worn piston rings, resulting in lack of power, misfiring, or excessive oil consumption, while others suffer from crankshaft or connecting rod bearing failure, signaled by a knocking sound.” Due to the difficulty and time required to rebuild an engine, often shops will replace the original engine with one that has been remanufactured.

    An Audi A4 owner reported, “We have put over $12,000 into this car. Something breaks, we fix it. Something else breaks, we have to fix it. We are retirement age and cannot buy a new car.”

    It can be a challenge finding the right shop to take on a major repair, which requires talent, time, and parts. A Mini Cooper owner wrote, “Cylinder number three failed while on the highway, at cruising speed. Not only is a replacement motor very expensive, but no local shop wants to do the job, because of the complexity.”

    To help warn both current owners and used-car shoppers, we compiled a list of 10 models that stood out as having the most severe problems, as determined by frequency and cost.

    They are presented below in rank order, starting with the one with the highest problem rate. We include the model year with the greatest problems (and when applicable, a range of years affected by this problem), the typical mileage range when the problem occurs, and where possible, we recommend similar alternative vehicles without this concern. If no alternatives are presented, that means similar cars had the same issue or another significant problem.

    The journey to 200,000 miles can be a bumpy one, but it doesn't have to be if you start with a good, reliable car and properly maintain it, per the directions in the owner’s manual. Consumer Reports always recommends shoppers consult the reliability ratings, based on our large-scale member surveys, to predict the models that have better odds of being trouble-free. This detailed data can be found on our car model pages.

    2010 Audi A4
    The 2010 Audi A4 is among the models most likely to need an engine rebuild.
    2010 Audi A4 2.0T
    Model years affected: 2009-2010
    Typical mileage: 107,000-153,000
    Alternatives without this problem: 2008-2010 Lexus ES, 2008-2010 Infiniti G, 2009-2010 Acura TL

    2008 Ford F-350
    The 2008 Ford F-350 is among the models most likely to need an engine rebuild.
    2008 Ford F-350 6.4L diesel
    Typical mileage: 65,000-119,000
    Alternatives: None

    2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser
    The 2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser is among the models most likely to need an engine rebuild.
    2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser
    Typical mileage: 102,500-133,000
    Alternatives without this problem: 2003-2004 Toyota Matrix

    2008 Mini Cooper/Clubman
    The 2008 Mini Cooper and Clubman are among the models most likely to need an engine rebuild.
    2008 Mini Cooper/Clubman
    Model years affected: 2008-2009
    Typical mileage: 122,000-129,500
    Alternatives without this problem: 2008 Mazda3

    2010 Chevrolet Equinox/GMC Terrain
    The 2010 Chevrolet Equinox and GMC Terrain are among the models most likely to need an engine rebuild.
    2010 Chevrolet Equinox/GMC Terrain
    Typical mileage: 84,500-108,500
    Alternatives without this problem: 2008-2010 Honda CR-V, 2008-2010 Toyota RAV4

    2006 Jeep Wrangler
    The 2006 Jeep Wrangler is among the models most likely to need an engine rebuild.
    2006 Jeep Wrangler 2.4L
    Typical mileage: Approximately 150,000
    Alternatives without this problem: 2004-2008 Toyota 4Runner

    2010 Cadillac SRX
    The 2010 Cadillac SRX is among the models most likely to need an engine rebuild.
    2010 Cadillac SRX
    Typical mileage: Approximately 130,000
    Alternatives without this problem: 2008-2010 Lexus RX, 2010 Acura MDX

    2003 Acura MDX
    The 2003 Acura MDX is among the models most likely to need an engine rebuild.
    2003 Acura MDX
    Typical mileage: Approximately 190,000
    Alternatives without this problem: 2003-2005 Lexus RX

    2006 Buick Lucerne
    The 2006 Buick Lucerne is among the models most likely to need an engine rebuild.
    2006 Buick Lucerne
    Typical mileage: 116,000-143,000
    Alternatives without this problem: 2006 Lexus GS, 2004-2008 Toyota Avalon

    2010 GMC Acadia
    The 2010 GMC Acadia is among the models most likely to need an engine rebuild.
    2010 GMC Acadia
    Typical mileage: 106,000-129,000
    Alternatives without this problem: 2008-2010 Toyota Highlander

    A New England native, I have piloted a wide variety of vehicles, from a Segway to an aircraft carrier. All told, I have driven thousands of vehicles—many on race tracks across the globe. Today, that experience and passion are harnessed at the CR Auto Test Center to empower consumers. And if some tires must be sacrificed in the pursuit of truth, so be it. Follow me on Twitter (@JeffSBartlett).
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    Re: Cars Most Likely to Need an Engine Rebuild

    Surprised the modern Chrysler Hemi didn't make this list, but I guess the cam/lifter problems don't usually end up requiring a full rebuild.
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    Re: Cars Most Likely to Need an Engine Rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by vanshmack View Post
    Surprised the modern Chrysler Hemi didn't make this list, but I guess the cam/lifter problems don't usually end up requiring a full rebuild.
    I wasn't too happy to see the 2001 PT on there. Of course, a lot depends on your definition of "likely."
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    Re: Cars Most Likely to Need an Engine Rebuild

    Way too many GM vehicles on there. Way too many.
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    Re: Cars Most Likely to Need an Engine Rebuild

    An Audi A4 owner reported, “We have put over $12,000 into this car. Something breaks, we fix it. Something else breaks, we have to fix it. We are retirement age and cannot buy a new car.”
    This part caught my eye other than too many GM vehicles. At some point you have to cut and run. Because at what point do you end up spending more on fixing it than to just cut your losses and run getting rid of it buying something much more dependable. What gets/got spent could have afforded a better vehicle.

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    Re: Cars Most Likely to Need an Engine Rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by 1958carnut View Post
    This part caught my eye other than too many GM vehicles. At some point you have to cut and run. Because at what point do you end up spending more on fixing it than to just cut your losses and run getting rid of it buying something much more dependable. What gets/got spent could have afforded a better vehicle.
    Spending $12k on a decade old vehicle doesn't seem like the right way to go, I'd think the A4 is worth less than $10k at that age/mileage.

    The article left out the most important piece, the likelihood of failure rate of those cars/engines. Makes a great story, but if only .25% need an engine rebuild, then not too bad.

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    Re: Cars Most Likely to Need an Engine Rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    Spending $12k on a decade old vehicle doesn't seem like the right way to go, I'd think the A4 is worth less than $10k at that age/mileage.
    Yup, well under $10k. Consumer Reports says the typical price range currently for 2010 A4 is $5,050 to $8,600.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gkr778 View Post
    Yup, well under $10k. Consumer Reports says the typical price range currently for 2010 A4 is $5,050 to $8,600.

    Probably the retiree's saying they have no choice but repair it have the mindset that buying a used car is buying other people's problems. They need to take $10k and get a used non-luxury car and pocket $2k and realize that their car IS the problem car.

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    Re: Cars Most Likely to Need an Engine Rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    Probably the retiree's saying they have no choice but repair it have the mindset that buying a used car is buying other people's problems. They need to take $10k and get a used non-luxury car and pocket $2k and realize that their car IS the problem car.
    And that's the thing. I've seen it with my nephew. He thought he had to get the 2008 BMW and has had nothing but problems in the couple of years now he has had it. He could have found a much more reliable mainstream product and newer too for the money "wasted" in this other misstep.

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    Re: Cars Most Likely to Need an Engine Rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    Probably the retiree's saying they have no choice but repair it have the mindset that buying a used car is buying other people's problems. They need to take $10k and get a used non-luxury car and pocket $2k and realize that their car IS the problem car.
    Or, buy a lower mileage 2010 A4 and use their existing A4 for parts.
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    Re: Cars Most Likely to Need an Engine Rebuild

    This is a guy in his mothers basement, probably a Toyota fan, doesn't mention the infamous engine slug in Toyotas. All His alternatives are Toyotas, and throws in the occasional Honda to retain credibility...

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    Re: Cars Most Likely to Need an Engine Rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    Spending $12k on a decade old vehicle doesn't seem like the right way to go, I'd think the A4 is worth less than $10k at that age/mileage.

    The article left out the most important piece, the likelihood of failure rate of those cars/engines. Makes a great story, but if only .25% need an engine rebuild, then not too bad.
    Our neighbor has an A4 and says Audi paid for a major rebuild, new pistons and crank perhaps, don't recall but it was yooj. I don't know how old it is, maybe 5 years max.

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    Acadia, Lucerne, and SRX in those years all share the same 3.6 V6 do they not?

    A glaring omission is any Hyundai or Kia product with the 2.4 n/a and the 2.0 turbo engines. When my Daughters Sonata went kaboom I wasn't surprised when the autowrecker we bought the replacement engine from told me they fly off the shelves. He said Hyundai and Kia are putting his kids through college with the number of engines he sells for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Chaos View Post
    Acadia, Lucerne, and SRX in those years all share the same 3.6 V6 do they not?

    A glaring omission is any Hyundai or Kia product with the 2.4 n/a and the 2.0 turbo engines. When my Daughters Sonata went kaboom I wasn't surprised when the autowrecker we bought the replacement engine from told me they fly off the shelves. He said Hyundai and Kia are putting his kids through college with the number of engines he sells for them.
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