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    Re: Car and Driver, In All It's Stupidity, Compares a new Supra to the V6 Camaro and

    Wow they really had to try hard to find a scenario where the BMTOYO wins, strange comparo indeed.

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    Re: Car and Driver, In All It's Stupidity, Compares a new Supra to the V6 Camaro and

    They should have picked a $50,000 Camaro. Also, the Supra is not very pretty.
    Pony Car: an affordable, compact, highly styled car with a sporty or performance-oriented image and an available V8.

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    Re: Car and Driver, In All It's Stupidity, Compares a new Supra to the V6 Camaro and

    Comparing the Supra to a pony car is asinine. Doubt they'll ever be cross-shopped. Hell, a 4 door SP Charger would put up a fight against both of them and who would consider that competition?

    On a side note, I followed a new jet black Z4 out of a dealer last night and the guy romped on it. Gotta admit it sounded pretty damn awesome and it shot out of the dealer straight onto a highway on ramp like a sling shot.

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    Re: Car and Driver, In All It's Stupidity, Compares a new Supra to the V6 Camaro and

    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post



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    Camaro EVERY TIME,.. in looks and Performance, not to mention cost
    They look exactly like the CT5!

    Sorry, every time I see white cars that's all I can think of now.

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    Re: Car and Driver, In All It's Stupidity, Compares a new Supra to the V6 Camaro and

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    They look exactly like the CT5!

    Sorry, every time I see white cars that's all I can think of now.
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    Re: Car and Driver, In All It's Stupidity, Compares a new Supra to the V6 Camaro and

    A CTS Vsport same Chassis and platform like the Camaro would run circles around the Supra on a track.

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    Re: Car and Driver, In All It's Stupidity, Compares a new Supra to the V6 Camaro and

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    A CTS Vsport same Chassis and platform like the Camaro would run circles around the Supra on a track.
    That's not a fair comparison, the CTS Vsport is a more expensive vehicle. Oh, wait....

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    Re: Car and Driver, In All It's Stupidity, Compares a new Supra to the V6 Camaro and

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    That's not a fair comparison, the CTS Vsport is a more expensive vehicle. Oh, wait....
    But a CTS VSport wouldn't run circles around the supra. V...yes/probably depending on the track, VSport...no, not in any venue
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    Re: Car and Driver, In All It's Stupidity, Compares a new Supra to the V6 Camaro and

    "...requiring just 3.8 seconds to achieve 60 mph"...good time for "335 hp" car. Interesting looking vehicle (but not the nicest car imo) .
    It will be interesting to see how far will Toyota push Supra and if there will be more powerful engine use in future.

    Here is some video..maybe people expected too much from Supra
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    Re: Car and Driver, In All It's Stupidity, Compares a new Supra to the V6 Camaro and

    I am very curious about that supposed 0-60 time.. That is almost as quick as a 650 HP CTS V, 3.8 zero to 60, duplicated by motor trend in 2017, even thought its almost 5 years newer, that is still a very impressive time for such a low horsepower car.
    Can anyone reproduce the time in real the world?
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    Re: Car and Driver, In All It's Stupidity, Compares a new Supra to the V6 Camaro and

    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post
    They didn't even have the balls to just get a V8 powered Camaro which would have whipped it in the 1/4.
    Car and Driver test results for 1/4 mile acceleration:
    • 2017 Camaro SS 1LE 6MT: 12.4 seconds @ 116 mph
    • 2019 Camaro SS 1LE 10AT: 12.2 seconds @ 118 mph
    • 2020 Supra 8AT: 12.3 seconds @ 113 mph


    So quarter mile times are essentially a draw. And in most other performance measures, Camaro SS is comparable to 2020 Supra.

    Where Camaro SS wins in my book (beyond the price advantage) is that it offers a real manual transmission.


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    Re: Car and Driver, In All It's Stupidity, Compares a new Supra to the V6 Camaro and

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    I am very curious about that supposed 0-60 time.. That is almost as quick as a 650 HP CTS V, 3.8 zero to 60, duplicated by motor trend in 2017, even thought its almost 5 years newer, that is still a very impressive time for such a low horsepower car.
    Can anyone reproduce the time in real the world?
    Well they were on the same planet as Motor trend was when they got a CTS-V to 60 in 3.8....Snarkiness aside, German horses do tend to work a little harder than their American counterparts, problem is they also tend to die earlier. My guess is that the 3.8 run in the Supra was done on a prepped surface...you or I would probably get a low 4 out of it.
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    Re: Car and Driver, In All It's Stupidity, Compares a new Supra to the V6 Camaro and

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    Camaro EVERY TIME,.. in looks and Performance, not to mention cost
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    Re: Car and Driver, In All It's Stupidity, Compares a new Supra to the V6 Camaro and

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Buttons View Post
    And because Toyota is choosing this path it's okay? If I wanted a BMW and its funky engineering I'd go for a better looking BMW than the Supra.
    That was the point I was making about Toyota, didn't say it was OK, Toyota is super risk-averse now. Its the same engineering regardless, just the shell and some interior materials are different.

    Quote Originally Posted by Let Them Fail View Post
    On a side note, I followed a new jet black Z4 out of a dealer last night and the guy romped on it. Gotta admit it sounded pretty damn awesome and it shot out of the dealer straight onto a highway on ramp like a sling shot.
    BMW's 3.0TT I6 is a sweet engine, enthusiasts should respect it, regardless of loyalties.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    That's not a fair comparison, the CTS Vsport is a more expensive vehicle. Oh, wait....
    Well it is $10k+ more, so........

    Quote Originally Posted by sdotjeezy View Post
    Well they were on the same planet as Motor trend was when they got a CTS-V to 60 in 3.8....Snarkiness aside, German horses do tend to work a little harder than their American counterparts, problem is they also tend to die earlier. My guess is that the 3.8 run in the Supra was done on a prepped surface...you or I would probably get a low 4 out of it.
    Officially Toyota says 4.1, so it's in the ballpark, especially considering the HP is under-rated. Believe the BMW is listed at 385(?).

    Sidenote: The last Supra Turbo in 2002 did 0-60 in 4.3.......
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    Re: Car and Driver, In All It's Stupidity, Compares a new Supra to the V6 Camaro and

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    I am very curious about that supposed 0-60 time.. That is almost as quick as a 650 HP CTS V, 3.8 zero to 60, duplicated by motor trend in 2017, even thought its almost 5 years newer, that is still a very impressive time for such a low horsepower car.
    Can anyone reproduce the time in real the world?
    CTS-V has done it in 3.5.. R&T and trust me.. if driven with only 32psi It could achieve better results/.. but the thing with any of these cars now with over 500HP, the 0-60 metric really shouldn't even be a measurement anymore... I'm talking 1/4 mile all the way. Which.. the V does in 11.6 at over 126mph
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