Autoextremist: Oh pendulum, where art thou?

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    Autoextremist: Oh pendulum, where art thou?

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    OH, PENDULUM, WHERE ART THOU?

    By Peter M. DeLorenzo

    Detroit. As we rush headlong into the unknown with this electrification thing, and the corrupt union management thing, and another round of the subprime loans thing, the thing that bothers me most right now is the degradation of design that continues to play out before our eyes. As I’ve said repeatedly in this column, as we go forward with similar electrified propulsion systems, design’s role as the Ultimate Initial Product Differentiator will become even more important. After all, if the whisper-jet power systems rely on artificially-tuned sounds, the only thing left to create brand character are the exterior designs themselves.

    Compelling, beautiful design lures people in; it’s what makes people look and want to see more, and ultimately buy. Which is why I am more than a little concerned where we are today with design. A quick tour of the latest "electrified" designs coming from auto manufacturers is frankly scary. Why? Everything looks alike. And the vehicles making their way around the American landscape are too often predictable, boring and uninteresting. I get the fact that we’re living in an all-SUV-all-the-time world, but it’s getting ridiculous out there. Here are a few examples of what electrification has wrought:

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    Re: Autoextremist: Oh pendulum, where art thou?

    Fashion is cyclic, and it does seem that boring is in. I don't the sedan will make a comeback but who knows, any Gen Zers here? I'm a millenial, I've owned sedans, but I won't since wagons, hatchbacks and crossovers are far more practical, roomier on the inside and smaller on the outside than a comparable sedan.
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    Don't most generation of vehicles have a sameness to them? I look back at cars from past decades and they all look pretty similar to the competition from the era. Almost all 1980's cars look boxy, etc.. There is always a breakout car that ushers in the next decade styling theme, kind of like the Taurus and Audi in the 1980's took us from boxy to jelly bean...

    I think the bigger issue with cars/CUV's today are they are all so good that sports cars don't hold as much excitement because regular vehicles are so good. Minivans with 6 second 0 to 60, etc., fwd cars handle pretty well, etc.. Engineers have banished most of the gremlins like torque steer, turbo lag, squeaks, rattles, and all we have left to differentiate good cars from bad ones is the quality of materials used in the lower door panel.

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    Re: Autoextremist: Oh pendulum, where art thou?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    Don't most generation of vehicles have a sameness to them? I look back at cars from past decades and they all look pretty similar to the competition from the era. Almost all 1980's cars look boxy, etc.. There is always a breakout car that ushers in the next decade styling theme, kind of like the Taurus and Audi in the 1980's took us from boxy to jelly bean...

    I think the bigger issue with cars/CUV's today are they are all so good that sports cars don't hold as much excitement because regular vehicles are so good. Minivans with 6 second 0 to 60, etc., fwd cars handle pretty well, etc.. Engineers have banished most of the gremlins like torque steer, turbo lag, squeaks, rattles, and all we have left to differentiate good cars from bad ones is the quality of materials used in the lower door panel.
    Yeah. I remember my old man saying of what to me was the current generation of cars, "These cars all look alike now. Not like it were in them thar good ol' days in Tombstone, with Wyatt and the boys and ol' Doc. Yessirree Bob!"

    Then one day I noticed that a lot of cars were indistinguishable. No outstanding features, no distinct character or look to them.
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    Now that utilities and trucks dominate sales people are not going back to low set vehicle like cars, most want/need elevated seating to read the traffic and know what’s going on

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    Re: Autoextremist: Oh pendulum, where art thou?

    But how can people get a read on traffic if everyone is sitting high in their SUVs?
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    Re: Autoextremist: Oh pendulum, where art thou?

    Quote Originally Posted by neuronbob View Post
    But how can people get a read on traffic if everyone is sitting high in their SUVs?
    I hate having an SUV or a tall van ahead of me. I guess we will need increasingly taller cars.
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    Re: Autoextremist: Oh pendulum, where art thou?

    Quote Originally Posted by neuronbob View Post
    But how can people get a read on traffic if everyone is sitting high in their SUVs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Self Reliance View Post
    I hate having an SUV or a tall van ahead of me. I guess we will need increasingly taller cars.
    at least NOT shorter and more "chopped" "coupe" sedans that are all but useless

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    Re: Autoextremist: Oh pendulum, where art thou?

    Quote Originally Posted by neuronbob View Post
    But how can people get a read on traffic if everyone is sitting high in their SUVs?
    You peek under the raised chassis.
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    Then one day I noticed that a lot of cars were indistinguishable. No outstanding features, no distinct character or look to them.
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    Re: Autoextremist: Oh pendulum, where art thou?

    Burlapp says to think of sedans as the new coupes.

    Aerodynamic efficiency has smoothed over many of the distinguishing features, although in the 20's, there was even less differentiation other than size, and they sure weren't aerodynamic then.

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    Re: Autoextremist: Oh pendulum, where art thou?

    When I look at SUVs these days they remind me of cars from the thirties - a big box with an engine compartment out front. At least station wagons had some sleekness about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinamonty View Post
    When I look at SUVs these days they remind me of cars from the thirties - a big box with an engine compartment out front. At least station wagons had some sleekness about them.
    The Chevrolet Suburban been around since the 1930s, same ol' formula and it happen to work

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    Now that utilities and trucks dominate sales people are not going back to low set vehicle like cars, most want/need elevated seating to read the traffic and know what’s going on
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