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    NASCAR fans worried about Chevy’s survival

    NASCAR fans worried about Chevy’s survival
    By DREW JUBERA
    The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
    Sunday, March 08, 2009



    In the minds of many NASCAR fans, General Motors’ money blues ranked with the race-day chances of Team Chevy Sunday at Atlanta Motor Speedway.

    “It’s what we were talking about coming up here: What would we drive if Chevy went out of business?” said Donald Hazel, 41, who loaded up his Silverado with his father and son for the drive from Adel, in South Georgia.

    A Hazel has never driven anything but a Chevy, save one 1983 fling with a Ford.

    “Had to walk home,” Virgil Hazel, 65, said. “Traded it in for a ‘77 Chevrolet.”

    So the notion of driving something without that bowtie logo, and pulling for a driver steering another company’s race car, was almost more than any Hazel from Adel could handle.

    “It’s terrible,” Donald Hazel said. “We’ve been Chevrolet, true and blue.”

    General Motors’ bleakest news yet rattled more than Chevy fans. Auditors for the parent of Chevrolet said last week that the automaker’s survival was in “substantial doubt.” It lost $30.9 billion last year, is living on $13.4 billion in government loans, and is seeking up to $30 billion more to stay alive.

    “If GM goes under, it’s going to make a lot of folks uneasy about where America is going,” said Bill Mather, 60, of Duluth. “I’d hate it. It’s like mom, apple pie and car companies. It’s part of who we are.”

    Even Ford and Dodge loyalists, for whom Chevy is a weekly foil, said Sundays wouldn’t be the same without their most-loathed rival. Sixteen of Sunday’s 43 cars at the Hampton racetrack were Chevrolets.

    “Maybe it’d be all right for Dodge, but I don’t think it’d be good for everybody else,” said David Laneve, 45, of Rossville, beside his red Dodge Charger. “It seems un-American.

    “Chevrolet, Ford, Dodge — they’re just supposed to be there.”

    Yet fans were split about how far Washington should go in bailing out GM, no matter what its effects on NASCAR.

    “I have mixed feelings,” said Tom Highsmith, 36, of Tampa. “If they can’t keep themselves afloat, maybe they don’t deserve to be in NASCAR. It might change the sport. Lead to something better. Someone else might buy GM for pennies on the dollar and build it back up.”

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    If one of these companies fail, the country wont be the same again.
    Yet so many people are blind
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    Re: NASCAR fans worried about Chevy’s survival

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    NASCAR fans worried about Chevy’s survival
    By DREW JUBERA
    The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
    Sunday, March 08, 2009



    In the minds of many NASCAR fans, General Motors’ money blues ranked with the race-day chances of Team Chevy Sunday at Atlanta Motor Speedway.

    “It’s what we were talking about coming up here: What would we drive if Chevy went out of business?” said Donald Hazel, 41, who loaded up his Silverado with his father and son for the drive from Adel, in South Georgia.

    A Hazel has never driven anything but a Chevy, save one 1983 fling with a Ford.

    “Had to walk home,” Virgil Hazel, 65, said. “Traded it in for a ‘77 Chevrolet.”

    So the notion of driving something without that bowtie logo, and pulling for a driver steering another company’s race car, was almost more than any Hazel from Adel could handle.

    “It’s terrible,” Donald Hazel said. “We’ve been Chevrolet, true and blue.”

    General Motors’ bleakest news yet rattled more than Chevy fans. Auditors for the parent of Chevrolet said last week that the automaker’s survival was in “substantial doubt.” It lost $30.9 billion last year, is living on $13.4 billion in government loans, and is seeking up to $30 billion more to stay alive.

    “If GM goes under, it’s going to make a lot of folks uneasy about where America is going,” said Bill Mather, 60, of Duluth. “I’d hate it. It’s like mom, apple pie and car companies. It’s part of who we are.”

    Even Ford and Dodge loyalists, for whom Chevy is a weekly foil, said Sundays wouldn’t be the same without their most-loathed rival. Sixteen of Sunday’s 43 cars at the Hampton racetrack were Chevrolets.

    “Maybe it’d be all right for Dodge, but I don’t think it’d be good for everybody else,” said David Laneve, 45, of Rossville, beside his red Dodge Charger. “It seems un-American.

    “Chevrolet, Ford, Dodge — they’re just supposed to be there.”

    Yet fans were split about how far Washington should go in bailing out GM, no matter what its effects on NASCAR.

    “I have mixed feelings,” said Tom Highsmith, 36, of Tampa. “If they can’t keep themselves afloat, maybe they don’t deserve to be in NASCAR. It might change the sport. Lead to something better. Someone else might buy GM for pennies on the dollar and build it back up.”

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    What's the difference? NASCAR has already moved to a common car, "Car of Tomorrow", where the manufacturer's differences is just stickers on the car. Soon, they'll be moving to a common engine that won't be a manufacturer's engine either. All of the components that made the 2nd level rivalry fun in NASCAR are being stripped out anyways. So, as far as NASCAR goes, they are reaping what they've sown.
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    I'm not really sure a better picture could have been chosen for this story. Poor Billy-Bob; how will he explain it to little Bobby-Bill?

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    Re: NASCAR fans worried about Chevy’s survival

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    I'm not really sure a better picture could have been chosen for this story. Poor Billy-Bob; how will he explain it to little Bobby-Bill?
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    I think GM could find far better ways to spend their money than on today's NASCAR, but I would find it a lot harder to care if they left--so I hope they stay, at least for me.

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    Re: NASCAR fans worried about Chevy’s survival

    Better question I think to ask is will nascar surviive. Oh and by the way good picture for this article considering tony stewart's home depot car is a toyota.







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    Re: NASCAR fans worried about Chevy’s survival

    Dodge is all but in the grave just like all of Chrysler. If Chevy pulls out, you have Ford and Toyota left. Good Lord.

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    Re: NASCAR fans worried about Chevy’s survival

    Quote Originally Posted by hunchman View Post
    Better question I think to ask is will nascar surviive. Oh and by the way good picture for this article considering tony stewart's home depot car is a toyota.


    Ummmm.... try again, Skippy. Way to keep up!



    Tony has shed the cloak of evil Yoter and followed the One True Path of the Bowtie. Nice try though! Oh, and as somewhat of a companion piece, the drivers themselves aren't worried at all:

    http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/head....gm/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Love_My_Grand_Am View Post
    Ummmm.... try again, Skippy. Way to keep up!


    Tony has shed the cloak of evil Yoter and followed the One True Path of the Bowtie. Nice try though! Oh, and as somewhat of a companion piece, the drivers themselves aren't worried at all:

    http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/head....gm/index.html
    My bad! right car wrong guy. Give it time though it still might happen

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    Re: NASCAR fans worried about Chevy’s survival

    NASCAR is already dead. A post-prepackaged bankruptcy GM (if the name "GM" survices at all) will not spend millions per year on NASCAR, neither will Chrysler, and Ford will pull out when it sees that the other big 1.8 have withdrawn.

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    Re: NASCAR fans worried about Chevy’s survival

    Quote Originally Posted by SwampFoxZ71 View Post
    What's the difference? NASCAR has already moved to a common car, "Car of Tomorrow", where the manufacturer's differences is just stickers on the car. Soon, they'll be moving to a common engine that won't be a manufacturer's engine either. All of the components that made the 2nd level rivalry fun in NASCAR are being stripped out anyways. So, as far as NASCAR goes, they are reaping what they've sown.
    You're right. Today's NASCAR is silly...silly cars, silly media, silly drivers. I live 30 miles from Darlington and used to go to quite a few races in the mid-to-late 70's. That was when the race cars had the same grille (plus some mesh)as my '77 MC out in the parking lot! Drivers then didn't have to burn rubber and cry, do flips and act like a fool - they acted like grown men. I went to my last race in 1985. RIP NASCAR.

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    Re: NASCAR fans worried about Chevy’s survival

    Quote Originally Posted by elgreen View Post
    You're right. Today's NASCAR is silly...silly cars, silly media, silly drivers. I live 30 miles from Darlington and used to go to quite a few races in the mid-to-late 70's. That was when the race cars had the same grille (plus some mesh)as my '77 MC out in the parking lot! Drivers then didn't have to burn rubber and cry, do flips and act like a fool - they acted like grown men. I went to my last race in 1985. RIP NASCAR.
    Baaa! Sour grapes! Like football players don't do flips and silly dances? Give me a break.

    NASCAR rocks, nice clean fun for the whole family. Love it all. My 5 year old went to his first race last year and won't stop asking to go again.

    And if you think that NASCAR fans don't care that Chevy or Ford are in the race then you have never been to a race!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 96_impala_ss View Post
    If one of these companies fail, the country wont be the same again.
    Yet so many people are blind
    You got. It will really sting bad.

    Don't worry though, GM will get their loans.

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    NASCAR has sold out every race this year but it Daytona/Vegas took until the last weekend to sell out. NASCARs ratings have been down about 15-20% since toyoduh started racing.

    Small teams are folding in NASCAR or will fold by the end of the year; Wood Brothers #21Ford is on half schedule. Mayfield/Nemochek are week to week but they drive camrys, so good riddence. Robbie Gordon switched to camry and is a one car team owner; I expect him to fold too. Buh bye!

    NASCAR has done several things to cut back on costs for teams such as drastically reduced testing, Car of tomorrow, etc.

    Dodge already pulled out of trucks. I almost expect them to pull out of Nationwide (Busch) after this year.

    As for GM, they will do what their socialist government masters tell them to do.

    NASCAR will get support of Southern Senators for Bailout, no problems there.

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