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    Vauxhall flexes its muscles

    Vauxhall flexes its muscles
    September 14, 2014
    NICK GIBBS

    Opel and Vauxhall’s harmonious relationship was tested recently by the naming of their new minicar. Vauxhall fought against using a name that just wouldn’t work in Britain -- and won.

    Germany-based Opel picked the name Karl for the brand’s budget minicar, which debuts next year. Opel and Vauxhall have shared vehicle names since 1995, but the German-sounding, German-spelled Karl caused Vauxhall executives to protest.

    That is why Karl is out and Viva is in as the car’s name in Britain. The Viva name originally was used on a series of strong-selling subcompact Vauxhall sedans last offered in 1979. Even if few people here remember the original Viva, it still works as a stand-alone name, a Vauxhall spokesman told me.

    This is the second time in recent years that the name of a car has caused some tension between Opel and Vauxhall.

    When the sibling General Motors brands launched their premium minicar it was given the first name of Opel’s founder, Adam. This raised some eyebrows in the UK because, of course, Vauxhall's founder was someone else entirely -- a man called Alexander Wilson.
    Karl with a K is just too German for Vauxhall, especially now it is starting to reposition the brand as being much more British, emphasizing its long history of car production here, which continues with the Astra in Ellesmere Port, northeast England, and the Vivaro van in Luton, just north of London.

    Vauxhall also has a powerful voice within GM because the UK is the No. 1 global sales market for Opel/Vauxhall.
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    Yeah, I was also curious as to why Vauxhall went with ADAM. Having a different name for the Karl only makes sense. Viva is a good name to resurrect.

    Personally, I don't see any problem with Vauxhall using their own names for their model lineup.
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    Seeing nearly 50% of GM Europe September sales will be RHD Vauxhall's when they get reported on October 1st, l guess Vauxhall have every right to call it the Viva, the Viva was one of the most best loved Vauxhalls ever sold in the UK. It's a bit like GM telling Chevy they can't use the Silverado name again if it was ever discontinued like UK's most popular ever Vauxhall the Viva was.



    Gerry Marshall's RWD Viva 2.5 GT flexes its muscles and gave the 5.7L Camaro a run for its money in Europe in the British Touring Car at Crystal Palace the Viva whips both the Camaro & boss Mustang ..

    RS 1600 Escort v Vauxhall Viva 2.5 GT v Chevrolet Camaro 5.7L awesome engine sounds all round nose to tail battle all the race, only 1 winner, in racing that you never see any better or more close a race..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldsmobile stopped View Post
    Seeing nearly 50% of GM Europe September sales will be RHD Vauxhall's when they get reported on October 1st, l guess Vauxhall have every right to call it the Viva, the Viva was one of the most best loved Vauxhalls ever sold in the UK. It's a bit like GM telling Chevy they can't use the Silverado name again if it was ever discontinued like UK's most popular ever Vauxhall the Viva was.



    Gerry Marshall's RWD Viva 2.5 GT flexes its muscles and gave the 5.7L Camaro a run for its money in Europe in the British Touring Car at Crystal Palace the Viva whips both the Camaro & boss Mustang ..

    RS 1600 Escort v Vauxhall Viva 2.5 GT v Chevrolet Camaro 5.7L awesome engine sounds all round nose to tail battle all the race, only 1 winner, in racing that you never see any better or more close a race..

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    Holden Torana started life as a Viva. First it came from England with a small I4 but then when made in OZ Holden restyled the C pillar and added several inches to the length of the hood so they could fit their six under it, eventually a 3.3 with triple sidedraft carbs. It beat the V8's in racing...










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    I owned a 1969 Envoy Epic, which was a Canadian only re-badged Vauxhall Viva sold in Chev-Olds dealerships. It was a horrible car, the worst I ever drove. I could never seriously consider any vehicle named Viva.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonaroSS View Post
    eventually a 3.3 with triple sidedraft carbs. It beat the V8's in racing...





    WOW! I'd like to know if that's any relation to any of GM's inline 6's of yore! That'd really get some attention at the car shows over here, no one hot rod's 6 cylinders over here! I've seen a handful of double carbs for I6's and even a couple of manifolds to put a 4 barrel on, but NOTHING as purrdy as that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonaroSS View Post
    Holden Torana started life as a Viva. First it came from England with a small I4 but then when made in OZ Holden restyled the C pillar and added several inches to the length of the hood so they could fit their six under it, eventually a 3.3 with triple sidedraft carbs. It beat the V8's in racing...










    That was a fantastic little so were the F1 & F2 Lotus Cossies spin-offs in Ford's the little 1.6 DOHC BDA, FBA & GBA were fantastic little engines that punched well above their weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDiablo View Post
    WOW! I'd like to know if that's any relation to any of GM's inline 6's of yore! That'd really get some attention at the car shows over here, no one hot rod's 6 cylinders over here! I've seen a handful of double carbs for I6's and even a couple of manifolds to put a 4 barrel on, but NOTHING as purrdy as that!
    Triple carbs on a 6 is purdy alright, 1 carb for each 2 cylinders works for me.
    Never got the triple carbs on a V8 option tho???
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    Re: Vauxhall flexes its muscles

    "Vauxhall flexes it's muscles" was the Mister Puniverse competition on last weekend?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chop View Post
    "Vauxhall flexes it's muscles" was the Mister Puniverse competition on last weekend?!?!
    LOL you are talking about the NEW FWD Viva with a transverse hairdryer for an engine, LOL can't ever see that ever kicking sand in the face of Camaro or Stang arse on the beach sorry l meant race track today.

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