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    Vsport: CT5-V Needs a Different Name

    Cadillac's New CT5-V Needs a Different Name
    Cadillac calls its new-for-2020 sports sedan the CT5-V, but it's really a replacement for the previous CTS Vsport model.
    By Tony Quiroga
    FEB 25, 2020
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    HIGHS: A relative value, comfortable interior, built by and for folks who value driving dynamics.
    LOWS: Badged a V, that thing on the C-pillar, shouty V-6 sounds.

    Let's clear up some confusion. The Cadillac CT5-V shown here is not the replacement for the fire-breathing CTS-V. It's best to think of it as a replacement for the old CTS Vsport model, a car that won three 10Best awards from 2014 to 2016. There, that's out of the way.

    Now that your expectations have been adjusted, you won't be too upset to find that there's a 360-hp twin-turbo 3.0-liter V-6 and a 10-speed automatic transmission driving the CT5-V. There's also a 330-hp version of the engine powering the new CT5 Premium Luxury model. Premium Luxury versions will get different interior trim, chrome bits on the exterior, less aggressive tires, and a softer suspension.

    The CT5-V's engine replaces the Vsport's twin-turbo 3.6-liter V-6. While the CT5 is down 60 horsepower to the old engine, our test car still managed to scramble to 60 mph in 4.8 seconds, just 0.4 second behind the Vsport. We're willing to forgive a couple of tenths of a second to 60 mph because the CT5-V's $48,690 base price is an entire Chevy Spark less than the 2019 CTS Vsport's $62,690 entry point.

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    Re: Vsport: CT5-V Needs a Different Name

    Quote Originally Posted by Car & Driver
    Although it's only 16 years old, Cadillac's V-series moniker has taken on as much meaning in the enthusiast community as Mercedes-AMG or BMW's M. The V-badge has been something reserved for the hardest-core Cadillacs, the cars built to bring German-car customers into the fold while simultaneously scaring away DeVille-seeking blue hairs. While we're still waiting for Cadillac to introduce an even hotter CT5 with a supercharged V-8, the CT5-V with a handful of options and a price just over $50,000 is a terrific value for drivers who remember the great German cars of the recent past and who are bored by the latest German efforts.
    Agreed that the V-series has made a great impact in only a short amount of time; especially as compared to more vaunted rivals.

    And while more power and performance are always appreciated, I still think that GM made a mistake in re-purposing the V moniker on a "lower-rung" model. As they note, it would've been better to just call it the Vsport (or something else altogether, rather than dilute a moniker they spent 16 years building and creating recognition of.

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    Re: Vsport: CT5-V Needs a Different Name

    Quote Originally Posted by nadepalma View Post
    Agreed that the V-series has made a great impact in only a short amount of time; especially as compared to more vaunted rivals.

    And while more power and performance are always appreciated, I still think that GM made a mistake in re-purposing the V moniker on a "lower-rung" model. As they note, it would've been better to just call it the Vsport (or something else altogether, rather than dilute a moniker they spent 16 years building and creating recognition of.

    Just my humble opinion.
    I agree w/ Cmiatso where he suggested it be called a CT5 V550T...and leave the top dog V as is.
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    I'll never understand the reasoning behind the V-series name shuffle.
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    Re: Vsport: CT5-V Needs a Different Name

    Quote Originally Posted by sdotjeezy View Post
    I agree w/ Cmiatso where he suggested it be called a CT5 V550T...and leave the top dog V as is.
    So instead of wasting so much time and energy explaining that this V is not that V, they can waste the same amount of time and energy explaining something else? This is just as silly. Just leave it like it was, and always should have been, and always will be, Vsport. Trying to come up with yet another scheme to bandaid fix the problem is just an apologist's way to go about this. Call them out for the shameless money grab that it is.
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    Re: Vsport: CT5-V Needs a Different Name

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDiablo View Post
    So instead of wasting so much time and energy explaining that this V is not that V, they can waste the same amount of time and energy explaining something else? This is just as silly. Just leave it like it was, and always should have been, and always will be, Vsport. Trying to come up with yet another scheme to bandaid fix the problem is just an apologist's way to go about this. Call them out for the shameless money grab for what it is.
    Fine, you win this one...CT5 VSport 400T (ft/lbs and not NMs)
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    Re: Vsport: CT5-V Needs a Different Name

    Quote Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65 View Post
    I'll never understand the reasoning behind the V-series name shuffle.
    It's just another shameless money grab that GM is famous for. They've got their focus group spreadsheets that show there are a boatload of posers out there that will gleefully hand over their dollars for the opportunity to say that they drive a V.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65 View Post
    I'll never understand the reasoning behind the V-series name shuffle.
    Exactly
    It didn't need changing, buyers understood the difference

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    Re: Vsport: CT5-V Needs a Different Name

    The name issue is a big nothing. People figured out V-Series and VSport before. They'll figure this out too.

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    Re: Vsport: CT5-V Needs a Different Name

    Quote Originally Posted by sdotjeezy View Post
    Fine, you win this one...CT5 VSport 400T (ft/lbs and not NMs)
    It's not about who's winning or losing. This isn't an opinion discussion. These are simple facts.

    PS, IMO the torque thing is stupid no matter which metric you measure by.
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    Re: Vsport: CT5-V Needs a Different Name

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDiablo View Post
    It's not about who's winning or losing. This isn't an opinion discussion. These are simple facts.

    PS, IMO the torque thing is stupid no matter which metric you measure by.
    I'd rather have 500 Fig Newtons than 400.

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    Re: Vsport: CT5-V Needs a Different Name

    Quote Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65 View Post
    I'll never understand the reasoning behind the V-series name shuffle.
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    I'll never understand the reasoning behind the V-series name shuffle.
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