Spied: 2020 Cadillac CT4 Completely Undisguised

[LowRider]

Looks like the new Benz A class is selling around 2K/mo, the C class around 4K/mo (US). I'd guess that's a realistic goal for CT4 sales, somewhere in there, given infatuation with SUVs these days.

https://www.daimler.com/dokumente/in...n-20190702.pdf

Well, except that Benz already has the image. Almost all the 20 and 30 year olds I know that have the money for these type of cars are leasing BMW's and Mercedes. It's not the cars, it's the image that goes with it. Takes a long time to change that. Unfortunately both Lincoln and Cadillac have a long way to go. Lincoln is not even trying in the luxury sedan market.

[SKH]

When the CT6 V was unveiled, it was originally planned to have 2 tunes of the 4.2TT one for the vSport and one for the V. It appears now when they dropped vSport as a trim, the detuned went into the Platinum V8 and the Full V is what the full V was going to be. So for the CT6 you get one flavor of V where the 4/5 get 2. Kinda par for the course when you think about it in terms of their inconsistency.

It's especially funny now that we've seen the little V spied w/ V sport badging.

I think you are wrong there. The lower state of tune was announced for the Platinum just before the 2018 NY show, and the higher state of tune for the V Sport. Late last year iirc they said the V Sport was worthy of the full V Series moniker and would no longer be a V Sport. Perhaps you are talking about something else, but the 500HP V8 was always destined for the Platinum version of the CT6 MCE.

Are you referring to the NY launch, or November/Dec when they said it would become a full V. I don’t remember them ever stating there would also be a V Sport with the 500HP V8?

[SKH]

For those complaining about the rear styling of the CT4, this looks way more over done imo.

[VS Ute 5Litre]

For those complaining about the rear styling of the CT4, this looks way more over done imo.

Maybe more overdone but cooler nonetheless

[germeezy1]

Fortunately for BMW the 8 series Gran Coupe is so nigh on lust worthy that its unfortunately baroque rear view is but a minor miscue.

[SKH]

I looked to find cool and lust worthy, and found these. Didn’t see any mention of the forgettable 8 Series Gran Coupe.

[ral1960]

What the Camaro should have been.

[SKH]

What the Camaro should have been.

I'm not a big fan of AM's latest design language, as some of it is borderline tacky but that new DBS Superleggera (007 Limited Edition) looks amazing. Those wheels are simply mind blowing. It's like a modern take on a wire wheel, but with more than a hint of the Pontiac Trans Am WS6 Snowflake wheel. The New Vantage is gorgeous apart from the hideous maw they slapped on it. Fortunately, as it is just the front end clip, it can be improved pretty easily when they do the inevitable facelift.

[09W]

BMW 8-series is where Pontiac would probably be stylistically if it were still happ'nin.
That is; hand-wringingly over-wraught.

[Scrambler]

that looks like it was rear-ended in the factory

[SKH]

BMW 8-series is where Pontiac would probably be stylistically if it were still happ'nin.
That is; hand-wringingly over-wraught.

I was just looking at a new 8-Series coupe in our lot. Bronze with what looks like a bronze carbon fiber looking roof. The roofline of this car is all kinds of awkward, and yes you are correct that the Gran Coupe looks like the Pontiac Grand Am if it had a couple more generations of evolution. I am definitely not impressed or a fan of this design, in coupe or four door.

[SKH]

that looks like it was rear-ended in the factory

Not really, because that would have improved it.

[eaton53]

Those wheels are simply mind blowing.

Definitely, if you're the guy that gets to clean 'em.
Then your mind gets blown like this... $%&^*@#$ %#^*& wheels.

[SKH]

Definitely, if you're the guy that gets to clean 'em.
Then your mind gets blown like this... $%&^*@#$ %#^*& wheels.

In that regard they are one of the worst wheel designs of all time. With my OCD, if I owned that car I’d need to be from old money or have a trust fund where I don’t need to work, that way I could clean them every other day. They are certainly captivating, but completely impractical.

Actually while I’m dreaming of being from old money or having a trust fund, let’s make it lots of old money and a substantial trust fund, then I’ll pay someone else to clean them!