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    Spied: 2020 Cadillac CT4 Completely Undisguised

    Our first clear look at a non-V CT4.
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    A few weeks ago, Cadillac gave us our first look at its new small luxury sports sedan in the form of the CT4-V. This was a bit unusual considering the company hadn't shown us the regular one yet, and the reveal is still off in the not-too-distant future. But we were lucky enough to catch a normal 2020 Cadillac CT4 parked at a local gas station completely and totally undisguised.

    Based on what we know about other recent Cadillacs and their trim and design, this CT4 is probably a Luxury or Premium Luxury trim, since it has plenty of bright chrome and red taillights instead of dark gray ones. The differences from the CT4-V are subtle. The mesh grilles of the V are swapped for a main grille studded with small Cadillac badge shapes and the lower grille has simple slats. The little air intakes by the lower sections of the running lights are smaller than the ones on the V. This car also lacks the V's side skirts and wider canards on the edges of the front bumper. There doesn't appear to be a rear spoiler either.

    While we've had a good look at the exterior of the CT4, we'll have to wait until the car's full reveal later this year to know what's under the skin. We do know that it will continue to use the Alpha platform shared with the CT5, Camaro and the old ATS and CTS. We suspect the base engine will be the same 2.0-liter turbocharged inline-4 from the CT5, which makes 237 horsepower and 258 pound-feet of torque. Since the CT4-V uses a turbo 4-cylinder that makes 320 horsepower and 369 horsepower, there might not be a V6 option for the regular CT4. The CT5's twin-turbo 3.0-liter V6 makes more power and torque, so that's out, and the old ATS's naturally aspirated V6 made 335 horsepower and 285 pound-feet of torque, which would be uncomfortably close the CT4-V's specs. But we could see a V6 of some sort in an even more potent V iteration of the CT4 later.
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    LOL at all the FORD fans in this thread thinking they got a one up. This is the Yukon Denali and trust me it's going to blow away the Navigator. Escalade is gunning for RR/Bentley level of interiors and beyond. I've talked to someone about this on another site that confirmed it Navigator isn't even being bench-marked at Cadillac too low for them.
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    Well, that should certainly silence the people on here saying "BUT IT ISN'T AN ATS!!1!11!!".

    It's a warmed over ATS, and it's D-U-L-L. Boring. Like, beyond dated. I wish Cadillac luck with this car, but I see a flop in the making. Good thing it didn't cost them as much this time around.

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    LOL at all the FORD fans in this thread thinking they got a one up. This is the Yukon Denali and trust me it's going to blow away the Navigator. Escalade is gunning for RR/Bentley level of interiors and beyond. I've talked to someone about this on another site that confirmed it Navigator isn't even being bench-marked at Cadillac too low for them.
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    Re: Spied: 2020 Cadillac CT4 Completely Undisguised

    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy4Life View Post
    Well, that should certainly silence the people on here saying "BUT IT ISN'T AN ATS!!1!11!!".
    It isn't. It's a TOTALLY NEW...... ATS.

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    Re: Spied: 2020 Cadillac CT4 Completely Undisguised

    I really hate how the hood runs down into the grill. It's like it doesn't line up right no matter what you do with it.

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    WOW - I now totally understand why we were shown the V version first, what a snoozer...........
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    different doors.. different A, B, and C.. different hood.. different tech.. different name. Looks like different cars to me.

    even look at the lines. There is an obvious break up with a crease going thru the handles and above
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    Quote Originally Posted by megeebee View Post
    It isn't. It's a TOTALLY NEW...... ATS.

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    Now we're at peace.

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    LOL at all the FORD fans in this thread thinking they got a one up. This is the Yukon Denali and trust me it's going to blow away the Navigator. Escalade is gunning for RR/Bentley level of interiors and beyond. I've talked to someone about this on another site that confirmed it Navigator isn't even being bench-marked at Cadillac too low for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy4Life View Post
    Yes. Very.

    Now we're at peace.

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    I can only find one thing...so far... that I don't like. That would be where the leading edge of the hood and grille meet. It needs more chrome or a surround like the ATS picture has. The thing as is looks like it's got a slightly curled in distaste-upper lip thing going on.

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    different doors.. different A, B, and C.. different hood.. different tech.. different name. Looks like different cars to me.

    even look at the lines. There is an obvious break up with a crease going thru the handles and above
    Looks quite different to me too but hey they can keep complaining. I still like the CT4 a little better than the CT5.
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    Re: Spied: 2020 Cadillac CT4 Completely Undisguised

    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post


    different doors.. different A, B, and C.. different hood.. different tech.. different name. Looks like different cars to me.

    even look at the lines. There is an obvious break up with a crease going thru the handles and above
    Cmon mate the hard points are identical


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    Quote Originally Posted by VS Ute 5Litre View Post
    Cmon mate the hard points are identical


    Its a re skin at best
    But the skin is NEW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy4Life View Post
    Well, that should certainly silence the people on here saying "BUT IT ISN'T AN ATS!!1!11!!".

    It's a warmed over ATS, and it's D-U-L-L. Boring. Like, beyond dated. I wish Cadillac luck with this car, but I see a flop in the making. Good thing it didn't cost them as much this time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post
    different doors.. different A, B, and C.. different hood.. different tech.. different name. Looks like different cars to me.

    even look at the lines. There is an obvious break up with a crease going thru the handles and above
    All that for 1,100 sales a month.............


    Quote Originally Posted by Cobaltss_King View Post
    Looks quite different to me too but hey they can keep complaining. I still like the CT4 a little better than the CT5.
    This is a weird phenomena that GM has gotten really good at lately; making their old cars look better, by making the new ones worse looking.


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    Re: Spied: 2020 Cadillac CT4 Completely Undisguised

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    The Forward Leaning Wedge of Art & Science is gone now, or almost gone. There is still a slight forward tilt over all, but the frontal area does appear a bit taller/higher. I don't know if it actually is or not, but appears so.

    It also appears less "Chubby" around the rear haunches compared to the ATS, too.

    That said, overall the car has a understated, elegant feel. I like it so far. I look forward to seeing GM's notoriously awful and mis-leading official images later this month.

    One difference I see is the position of the door handles though. They are re-positioned from the ATS.




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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.buttons View Post
    but the skin is new!
    totally
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