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    Re: Schedule of upcoming Cadillac releases | 2018-2021

    Quote Originally Posted by samesun View Post
    #1 & #3 - XT4/E2 and XT6/C1 platforms... I'm not aware of these platforms. Are they fwd or rwd based?

    I'm most interested in #6 - CT5...I have a good feeling it's gonna be a wow...provided of course, that Cadillac is meeting its sales and financial goals, if not, these models are probably most likely to get cancelled.

    #9 -XT8...interesting

    I'm glad that Cadillac is sticking with refining its sedan lineup and gaining further respect for well engineered cars in the event the market starts to shift back to cars.
    E2 = Malibu/Regal
    C1 = related to E2, optimized for CUV's, XT5, Acadia, next gen Traverse/Enclave

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    not that I want to wish away my life, but I can't wait for 2021 and see this lineup in real life!
    As long as all of the competition stays where they are at today (along with a lot of macro-economic factors) it'll be great for Cadillac!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    As long as all of the competition stays where they are at today (along with a lot of macro-economic factors) it'll be great for Cadillac!
    It will be interesting. Mercedes, BMW, and Audi have all said that they have too many models. Their cuts may be an additional avenue for Cadillac.

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    Re: Schedule of upcoming Cadillac releases | 2018-2021

    Quote Originally Posted by eaton53 View Post
    Somewhere in here is a refresh of the XTS.
    That, XT4 and XT2 are the ones I'm most interested in.
    I'll believe the convertible when I see it.
    Yes, as well as the respective Escalade and ATS-L updates.

    But this calendar only includes the introduction of completely new models and the next generation of the Escalade.

    Quote Originally Posted by emh View Post
    So the CT3 is supposedly smaller than the ATS and the CT4 is supposedly the size of the 2nd gen CTS (which makes it smaller than the E/5/A6/GS/XF). And we have the CT6 which is priced sort of like an E/5 but is much larger.

    Does this mean Cadillac is going back to "tweeners" for the sedans? I hope that's not the case but that's what it sounds like from this info.
    Something like that. You will find more sense if you approach it from a global point of view.

    Cadillac has said that to get the most out of the current investment and fill as many gaps as possible, all of your next vehicles will have a unique size. Said size must be versatile enough to meet the tastes and needs of customers in each market. In short, there will be no CT# -L.

    In addition, in the US market this strategy will allow you to attack the competition from an alternative angle and not in your own comfort zone.

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    Re: Schedule of upcoming Cadillac releases | 2018-2021

    so with the DEATH of the CTS AND ATS-L and both being replaced with ONE CT4 will it be designed around REAR leg room OR more overall room but NOT rear ROOM IE more like the ATS-L OR the CTS?

    I like the idea of the Escalade BECOMING its OWN vehicle and NOT a "rebadge" of a CHEVY/GMC product

    I hope it includes IRS or at least some proper solution to the "hack" of a rear load floor / 3RD row seating

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    Re: Schedule of upcoming Cadillac releases | 2018-2021

    I've heard from a fairly good source nothing above CT6 is coming. At least not anytime we would consider soon.

    But maybe he's a misdirecting shill...
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    Quote Originally Posted by richmond2000 View Post
    so with the DEATH of the CTS AND ATS-L and both being replaced with ONE CT4 will it be designed around REAR leg room OR more overall room but NOT rear ROOM IE more like the ATS-L OR the CTS?

    I like the idea of the Escalade BECOMING its OWN vehicle and NOT a "rebadge" of a CHEVY/GMC product

    I hope it includes IRS or at least some proper solution to the "hack" of a rear load floor / 3RD row seating
    ATS-L will just become the CTS, they've fixed the rear bench bar that has been reducing leg room by 2-3 inches. IF the wheel base is stretch an extra inch or 2 for the CTS, then there really is no purpose for an ATS-L.

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    Re: Schedule of upcoming Cadillac releases | 2018-2021

    Quote Originally Posted by BahamaTodd View Post
    Once the XT4 and XT6 arrive, is there a point to the XT5? All the other CUVs have even numbers. It seems like an in-between model like the 2nd gen CTS and might be short lived.
    Graphically:

    Position of the Cadillac XT5 with its new relatives
    Model
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    XT4
    E2U
    ~ WB: 111.4 in | L: 183 in
    Audi Q5, BMW X3, MB GLC
    ~ $ 36,800
    XT5
    C1U
    WB: 112.5 in | L: 189.6 in
    Lexus RX, BMW X4, MB GLC C
    ~ $ 42,900
    XT6
    C1U+
    ~ WB: 116 in | L: 195 in
    Audi Q7, BMW X5, MB GLE
    ~ $ 50,000

    It should not be forgotten that the current configuration of the XT5 is the work of the planning department of GM, basically to continue the role that had the SRX as the only crossover of the brand.

    The Cadillac planning department has two options for the next generation of the XT5: maintain the current configuration, and follow a strategy similar to that of Lexus with the RX; or change of focus, to one that differentiates it from its new companions of range with similar platforms.

    Let's wait and see what the decision will be, but without a doubt the XT4 and XT6 will be enough to cover most of the needs of the volume market. This new environment opens the opportunity to offer in that strip an aspirational and desirable product, that contributes more with the restoration of the image of Cadillac.

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    Re: Schedule of upcoming Cadillac releases | 2018-2021

    Quote Originally Posted by dslay04 View Post
    It will be interesting. Mercedes, BMW, and Audi have all said that they have too many models. Their cuts may be an additional avenue for Cadillac.
    Especially if Cadillac places an EXTREME emphasis on pushing style, which they must do.

    Quote Originally Posted by GMSilverado View Post
    Something like that. You will find more sense if you approach it from a global point of view.

    Cadillac has said that to get the most out of the current investment and fill as many gaps as possible, all of your next vehicles will have a unique size. Said size must be versatile enough to meet the tastes and needs of customers in each market. In short, there will be no CT# -L.

    In addition, in the US market this strategy will allow you to attack the competition from an alternative angle and not in your own comfort zone.
    I'm pretty sure the CT3/CT5/CT6 strategy is meant to squeeze people up into the CT6 vs CT5 in China, with a CT5 for the US (as a normal midsize; size is still prohibitive here) and for China as maybe a TOKEN "driver's" or "premium" CT3.

    Can't think of a better way to describe it. I think all cars may see a focus on the rear seat space, but I predict CT5 will be the most "normal" car of the lineup.

    CT5, XT4, and potential CT8, XT8, and Escalade Sport are the models I'm most interested in seeing, with the former the ones I personally would probably take interest in.

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    Re: Schedule of upcoming Cadillac releases | 2018-2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Accardi View Post
    I've heard from a fairly good source nothing above CT6 is coming. At least not anytime we would consider soon.

    But maybe he's a misdirecting shill...
    I would take him at his word. I don't expect anything. At the end of the day, the car is going to cost nearly ~$150k supposedly, so I don't expect to see a full blown flagship; particularly when the Chinese love crossovers so much. I do still expect a Corvette-based Cadillac. It's disappointing to not have a real "luxury" coupe, though.

    Unless Cadillac really hits gold and starts making gobs and gobs of cash, I expect the only "8" we'll see from Cadillac will be an XT8.

    An "urban-focused personal luxury SUV" are the buzzwords I'm visioning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfbreh View Post
    I would take him at his word. I don't expect anything. At the end of the day, the car is going to cost nearly ~$150k supposedly, so I don't expect to see a full blown flagship; particularly when the Chinese love crossovers so much. I do still expect a Corvette-based Cadillac. It's disappointing to not have a real "luxury" coupe, though.

    Unless Cadillac really hits gold and starts making gobs and gobs of cash, I expect the only "8" we'll see from Cadillac will be an XT8.

    An "urban-focused personal luxury SUV" are the buzzwords I'm visioning.
    Well same source also told me Cadillac isn't interested in spending the money to chase Tier 1 lux brands like Merc and Audi. So effectively they're looking for a small tranch somewhere between Buick and Lexus.

    They should just scale UP and go chase Bentley. They already have the exclusivity bit down...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Accardi View Post
    Well same source also told me Cadillac isn't interested in spending the money to chase Tier 1 lux brands like Merc and Audi. So effectively they're looking for a small tranch somewhere between Buick and Lexus.

    They should just scale UP and go chase Bentley. They already have the exclusivity bit down...
    I smell BS on that one. As far as interior quality, ATS, CTS, XT5 are on par if not better than any German. Also, if they weren't interested, then why spend all the money on the Omega platform and make the CT6 aluminium focused

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    Re: Schedule of upcoming Cadillac releases | 2018-2021

    Wow, the time after those planned launches for the other cars that don't have am exact timeline is so far away I wouldn't be surprised to see ALL those plans change! That's forever in the tastes of the motoring public! Not to mention Geo-Political developments!

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    I like what I read - I only ask that if Cadillac is serious about this, make the product serious also. You can't have a half-hearted effort where ride and drive excel and the interior falls flat - or vice versa. It must be a complete package that meets, or exceeds, what is expected and not be a segment leader for a year and then fall behind and be inconsequential two years later (ATS and CTS).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Accardi View Post
    They should just scale UP and go chase Bentley. They already have the exclusivity bit down...
    They could get as much money as those other guys if they made Super Slades.
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