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    Re: Hotter Cadillac CT4-V Prototype Spied Testing at GM's Proving Grounds

    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy4Life View Post
    Before anybody decides to rip me a new one, let me preface:

    I have zero doubt in my mind at all this car will drive great and handle extremely well at 10/10ths around a track.

    Great, now that that's out of the way... I'm not sold on the idea of the V-Series brand being *******ized and "Blackwing" or whatever horrible name they're going to slap on this car being a suitable replacement is a smart move. V had pull, and was respected by pretty much everybody as equal to M, AMG, etc. To throw away 15+ years of hard work, great cars, and solid branding to cheaply prop up sales in the mean time by devaluing a once coveted badge that's literally the last good thing besides Escalade the brand has going for it just isn't a good idea, sorry.

    The reason why this car will fail in the marketplace won't be price, design, interior, or the way it drives. It'll be the name, and it'll be the flawed, ass backwards logic that brought the failure onto it. Too bad. Performance Cadillacs are some of the best driving cars in the world.
    Cadillac has a chance to trump everyone here. I'm pretty sure that "A1" hasn't been taken. Who could beat that?
    It sounded pretty good until I actually said it.

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    Re: Hotter Cadillac CT4-V Prototype Spied Testing at GM's Proving Grounds

    http://cadillacsociety.com/2019/06/2...led-blackwing/

    So let it be written, So let it be done.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2O8gTIr4lys

    I called on Cadillac to leverage this name all the way back to the launch of the CT6 V Sport, and on many other occasions. Perhaps Cadillac reads these forums? At the very least I want a gold star dammit!
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    Re: Hotter Cadillac CT4-V Prototype Spied Testing at GM's Proving Grounds

    Quote Originally Posted by rmc523 View Post
    Lol. Nobody has said it's "going to fail because it has a V on the back instead of V Sport". If anything, it'd fail because it's just a reskinned ATS and didn't solve any of ATS' core problems (rear leg room, interior space, etc.). The point with V is just that it's watered down the name unnecessarily.
    Wrong. Envoy specifically said it would fail because of the name. Just look a few posts above where it's quoted.

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    Re: Hotter Cadillac CT4-V Prototype Spied Testing at GM's Proving Grounds

    New prediction. If in a few years Cadillac is able to establish BLACKWING as the top V Series variant, they’ll keep V Series for the entry point performance vehicles, and they’ll eventually drop the ‘V’ annotation from BLACKWING badged offerings. You’ll have CT4/CT5-V Series etc, and then CT4/CT5 BLACKWING.

    “So let it be written, So let it be done”.

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    Re: Hotter Cadillac CT4-V Prototype Spied Testing at GM's Proving Grounds

    Quote Originally Posted by SKH View Post
    New prediction. If in a few years Cadillac is able to establish BLACKWING as the top V Series variant, they’ll keep V Series for the entry point performance vehicles, and they’ll eventually drop the ‘V’ annotation from BLACKWING badged offerings. You’ll have CT4/CT5-V Series etc, and then CT4/CT5 BLACKWING.

    “So let it be written, So let it be done”.
    And people will complain that the blackwing name is being misused smh.
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    Re: Hotter Cadillac CT4-V Prototype Spied Testing at GM's Proving Grounds

    MB has a Black Series and Lincoln has Black Label (which in Canada is a inexpensive and very yucky Beer) I see no issue with the Blackwing name.

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    Re: Hotter Cadillac CT4-V Prototype Spied Testing at GM's Proving Grounds

    Quote Originally Posted by Cobaltss_King View Post
    And people will complain that the blackwing name is being misused smh.
    Welp, it kinda will be if they don't have Blackwing engines don't you think? V-series used to be a no posers allowed club, now any ******* can be in it. The outrage is legit.

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    Re: Hotter Cadillac CT4-V Prototype Spied Testing at GM's Proving Grounds

    Quote Originally Posted by Cobaltss_King View Post
    And people will complain that the blackwing name is being misused smh.
    Haha hadn’t thought of that. Haters gonna hate!

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    Re: Hotter Cadillac CT4-V Prototype Spied Testing at GM's Proving Grounds

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Chaos View Post
    MB has a Black Series and Lincoln has Black Label (which in Canada is a inexpensive and very yucky Beer) I see no issue with the Blackwing name.
    Plus BLACKWING is way more evocative than both of those names. Black label sounds like booze! BLACKWING conjures up images of The B2 bomber/F-117A stealth fighter and secretive government Black projects. Sorry, Johnnie Walker loses this fight!

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    Re: Hotter Cadillac CT4-V Prototype Spied Testing at GM's Proving Grounds

    There is a version of the 2021 Escalade that would definitely be worthy of the BLACKWING name. I’m not sure if they should use it on the XT4/5/6. For those, V Series would suffice if they had similar power, braking and handling enhancements along the lines of the CT4/5 entry V’s.

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    Re: Hotter Cadillac CT4-V Prototype Spied Testing at GM's Proving Grounds

    Quote Originally Posted by IROCNROL1 View Post
    Cadillac has a chance to trump everyone here. I'm pretty sure that "A1" hasn't been taken. Who could beat that?

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    Re: Hotter Cadillac CT4-V Prototype Spied Testing at GM's Proving Grounds

    Blackwing is a stupid name for the higher performance Vs for multiple reasons:

    1. Blackwing is the name of the 4.2TT V8
    2. Not all Higher performance Vs are going to have the V8 so you're going to have blackwings w/o a blackwing???
    3. The CT6 Platinum is available w/ a Blackwing V8
    4. Blackwing is a stupid name

    So to sum that up, alot of you are clamoring for a performance series to be named after an engine that some of the vehicles within that performance series isn't going to have....then on top of that, a non performance series car (and possibly the 'Slade) will also have the Blackwing engine...talk about muddling a message.

    I've given up on the stupidity of the CT4/5V being called Vs instead of VSports, but this Blackwing thing is equally as dumb and should be dissuaded at all costs.
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    Re: Hotter Cadillac CT4-V Prototype Spied Testing at GM's Proving Grounds

    Quote Originally Posted by SKH View Post
    http://cadillacsociety.com/2019/06/2...led-blackwing/

    So let it be written, So let it be done.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2O8gTIr4lys

    I called on Cadillac to leverage this name all the way back to the launch of the CT6 V Sport, and on many other occasions. Perhaps Cadillac reads these forums? At the very least I want a gold star dammit!
    So wait...Top Cadillac performance models will have a name after an engine, which might not even end up in one of them (i think CT4 is more likely to have v6TT)?
    Or maybe they are planning also to call the engine in their top models a Blackwing.
    Blackwing v6, Blackwing V8, Blackwing electric..problem solved

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    Re: Hotter Cadillac CT4-V Prototype Spied Testing at GM's Proving Grounds

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Chaos View Post
    MB has a Black Series and Lincoln has Black Label (which in Canada is a inexpensive and very yucky Beer) I see no issue with the Blackwing name.

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