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    GMI Exclusive: XTS will not be replaced at end of lifecycle

    No direct successor to ATS, CTS when those models are renamed
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    By: Mark Stevenson



    Cadillac will not replace the XTS when it reaches the end of its lifecycle in 2019 signalling the end of the funeral and stretch limousine business for GM's luxury brand, GMInsideNews can report.

    With the introduction of the new range-topping -- for now -- CT6 revealed last night, Cadillac will realign their products to better take on its German competition.

    "As we move into the future refining our sedan portfolio, there will be no direct successor to the CTS. There will be no direct successor to the ATS. There is no point to renaming those cars because in the future those cars will disappear," said Johan de Nysschen at a private reveal last night for the Cadillac CT6.

    Probably the only model within the Cadillac range with a question mark next to its future is the XTS. But, de Nysschen was quick to put rumors to bed regarding Cadillac's front-wheel drive sedan.

    "Ultimately, a car like XTS when it reaches the end of its lifecycle, will not be replaced."

    While retail customers likely won't miss the XTS, one group most definitely will: coachbuilders of funeral cars and stretch limousines.

    "We will not have a car that will lend itself to these kind of modifications and we will probably withdrawal from those markets."
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    Re: GMI Exclusive: XTS will not be replaced at end of lifecycle

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkStevenson View Post
    While retail customers likely won't miss the XTS, one group most definitely will: coachbuilders of funeral cars and stretch limousines.

    "We will not have a car that will lend itself to these kind of modifications and we will probably withdrawal from those markets."
    As expected.

    But does this mean the president will replace his Caddy One with a German car like a Mercedes?

    That would be something to get used to, the US president in a German luxury car for all to see.

    I can see the CNN headline already: "Even the president of the USA ditches Cadillac". Not a great marketing move i can imagine.

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    Re: GMI Exclusive: XTS will not be replaced at end of lifecycle

    HA I knew it! I mentioned Cadillac leaving this market before and got jumped on with a few saying Cadillac has a rich history of limos and hearses and should not leave this market and now they are!
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    Re: GMI Exclusive: XTS will not be replaced at end of lifecycle

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkStevenson View Post

    "As we move into the future refining our sedan portfolio, there will be no direct successor to the CTS. There will be no direct successor to the ATS. There is no point to renaming those cars because in the future those cars will disappear," said Johan de Nysschen at a private reveal last night for the Cadillac CT6.
    This is a joke right. Happy April fools day. How do the ATS and CTS not have a direct successor?

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    Re: GMI Exclusive: XTS will not be replaced at end of lifecycle

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew L View Post
    HA I knew it! I mentioned Cadillac leaving this market before and got jumped on with a few saying Cadillac has a rich history of limos and hearses and should not leave this market and now they are!
    There's no reason a well executed LaCrosse couldn't fill that gap. Or Lincoln I suppose can fight for the scraps of what's left.
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    Re: GMI Exclusive: XTS will not be replaced at end of lifecycle

    Quote Originally Posted by meniisoc View Post
    As expected.

    But does this mean the president will replace his Caddy One with a German car like a Mercedes?

    That would be something to get used to, the US president in a German luxury car for all to see.

    I can see the CNN headline already: "Even the president of the USA ditches Cadillac". Not a great marketing move i can imagine.
    Not until the end of 2019 so there is still time for one more presidential limo. Mark Fields already said they opted out of doing the presidential limo this time for Lincoln but AFTER Lincoln could come in with a new limo. Chrysler won't play at all I don't think.
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    Re: GMI Exclusive: XTS will not be replaced at end of lifecycle

    Quote Originally Posted by meniisoc View Post
    As expected.

    But does this mean the president will replace his Caddy One with a German car like a Mercedes?

    That would be something to get used to, the US president in a German luxury car for all to see.

    I can see the CNN headline already: "Even the president of the USA ditches Cadillac". Not a great marketing move i can imagine.
    The president doesn't ride in an XTS. Its a 100% custom car based on a Medium duty truck frame.

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    Re: GMI Exclusive: XTS will not be replaced at end of lifecycle

    Quote Originally Posted by dslay04 View Post
    This is a joke right. Happy April fools day. How do the ATS and CTS not have a direct successor?
    I'm assuming he means the nameplates, which will probably become something like CT2 and CT4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dslay04 View Post
    This is a joke right. Happy April fools day. How do the ATS and CTS not have a direct successor?
    They maybe splitting them? There are 5 numbers under 6 and CTS could be replaced by a CT5 and CT4? Maybe realigning them again. Or just suit and tie talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dslay04 View Post
    The president doesn't ride in an XTS. Its a 100% custom car based on a Medium duty truck frame.
    That's true but JdN made it sound like they are pulling out of the limo market entirely with this statement.
    "We will not have a car that will lend itself to these kind of modifications and we will probably withdrawal from those markets."
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    Re: GMI Exclusive: XTS will not be replaced at end of lifecycle

    Quote Originally Posted by dslay04 View Post
    The president doesn't ride in an XTS. Its a 100% custom car based on a Medium duty truck frame.
    Everybody knows that, but it's still supposed to look like some kind of regular Caddy. People look at that car/truck and see an American Caddy.

    Just imagine that truck looking like a nice luxury German Mercedes! That would be great marketing for the Germans.

    "President ditches Cadillac for Mercedes".

    If you still can't/won't see my point, well whatever than........

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    Re: GMI Exclusive: XTS will not be replaced at end of lifecycle

    Quote Originally Posted by dslay04 View Post
    This is a joke right. Happy April fools day. How do the ATS and CTS not have a direct successor?
    Thats exec speak. Of course they will have direct successors. There will be a compact car and a midsize car at Cadillac, sedans and at least one coupe. He's trying to make it sound like they will be totally different vehicles, and maybe they will, but the market segments will still be filled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meniisoc View Post

    That would be something to get used to, the US president in a German luxury car for all to see.
    He could always ride in a Bentley -- ooops --- I meant Lincoln.
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    Re: GMI Exclusive: XTS will not be replaced at end of lifecycle

    :checks calendar:

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    Re: GMI Exclusive: XTS will not be replaced at end of lifecycle

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew L View Post
    That's true but JdN made it sound like they are pulling out of the limo market entirely with this statement.
    "We will not have a car that will lend itself to these kind of modifications and we will probably withdrawal from those markets."
    Not really JdN's decision. This would be a contract work with GM. Having a Cadillac as the Presidential limo has been nothing but good for Cadillac both domestically and abroad.

    Quote Originally Posted by meniisoc View Post
    Everybody knows that, but it's still supposed to look like some kind of regular Caddy. People look at that car/truck and see an American Caddy.

    Just imagine that truck looking like a nice luxury German Mercedes! That would be great marketing for the Germans.

    "President ditches Cadillac for Mercedes".

    If you still can't/won't see my point, well whatever than........
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul8488 View Post
    Thats exec speak. Of course they will have direct successors. There will be a compact car and a midsize car at Cadillac, sedans and at least one coupe. He's trying to make it sound like they will be totally different vehicles, and maybe they will, but the market segments will still be filled.
    He said:
    There is no point to renaming those cars because in the future those cars will disappear

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