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    GM upgrades Super Cruise driver-assist system to better match Tesla’s Autopilot

    GM upgrades Super Cruise driver-assist system to better match Tesla’s Autopilot
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/28/gm-u...autopilot.html

    Published Tue, Jan 28 2020
    Michael Wayland

    Key Points
    -GM is updating its Super Cruise driver-assist system to feature lane-changing capabilities similar to Tesla’s Autopilot.
    -The new capability will debut on the 2021 Cadillac CT5 and CT4 sedans later this year, followed by the next-generation Cadillac Escalade.
    -GM has been extremely conservative in its rollout of the technology, which debuted in 2017.

    DETROIT — General Motors is updating its Super Cruise driver-assist highway system to feature lane-changing capabilities similar to Tesla’s Autopilot.

    The lane-changing function as well as other enhancements to Super Cruise will debut on the 2021 Cadillac CT5 and CT4 sedans later this year, followed by the next-generation Cadillac Escalade, the company announced on Tuesday.

    GM launched Super Cruise in 2017, two years after Tesla debuted Autopilot. The Detroit automaker has been extremely conservative in its rollout of the technology, despite development of the system going back a decade or so.

    Due to the slower launch cadence and additional safeguards, Super Cruise has not received as much attention or scrutiny as Autopilot. Tesla has faced questions about Autopilot’s role in at least three fatal crashes and about allowing driver misuse.

    Some experts consider Super Cruise to function better than Autopilot in its limited use cases, however Autopilot has offered greater capabilities, including the ability to change lanes since its launch in 2015.

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    Re: GM upgrades Super Cruise driver-assist system to better match Tesla’s Autopilot

    Yeah, it doesn’t have to match Tesla. Numerous tests have said Super Cruise was better than Autopilot. The anti-Cadillac bias in the auto press is showing again. What’s happening here is Cadillac is putting more distance between Super Cruise and Tesla’s autopilot.

    One would think that not killing you would make Super Cruise far more capable than Tesla’s autopilot.
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    Re: GM upgrades Super Cruise driver-assist system to better match Tesla’s Autopilot

    The thought just crossed my mind as to the disadvantage all established manufacturers have vs. Tesla. Tesla/Elon Musk takes a lot of risks and the public doesn't seem to mind (or flat out just doesn't realize the additional risk), where the legacy manufacturers are very risk-adverse. All the public see's is Tesla has had this fantastic tech for years and no legacy manufacturer can come close. That is tough to compete against and come out on top. So far none of the deaths via Tesla's autopilot have made a dent, but I bet it won't go so well for the legacy manufacturers when one of their self driving cars kills someone, especially for GM. Perceptions.....

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    Re: GM upgrades Super Cruise driver-assist system to better match Tesla’s Autopilot

    Considering that they can't even fix a problem that they caused with CUE and my radio with a June software update, I really wouldn't put my life in their hands with this super cruise thing. They should jack up health and auto insurance rates for anyone who buys it.

    They put out a TSB that was supposed to fix the problems that I and others have with CUE. It fixes nothing. It has the exact same problems after getting the latest update.

    Cadillac's IT department just be just a giant clown car. I've really come to despise them. Much as I like my car, my fantasy is too fill it with explosives, drive to Cadillac HQ, and light the fuse. Anyone who has known me for five minutes knows that I've been a GM fan for my entire life. I now would advise anyone to stay away from their garbage. Great car, the experience of which has been utterly ruined by their incompetence.
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    Re: GM upgrades Super Cruise driver-assist system to better match Tesla’s Autopilot

    Glad to hear SuperCruise is coming to CT4/CT5 late this year (2021 Model Year)! I probably won't be able to afford it, but I'll check it out...

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    Re: GM upgrades Super Cruise driver-assist system to better match Tesla’s Autopilot

    I hope they're not following lock step with Tesla's ability to crash in their upgrading Super Cruise.

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    Re: GM upgrades Super Cruise driver-assist system to better match Tesla’s Autopilot

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    Jan 24th 2020 at 2:15PM

    WASHINGTON — A U.S. senator on Friday urged Tesla to rebrand its driver assistance system Autopilot, saying it has "an inherently misleading name" and is subject to potentially dangerous misuse.

    But Tesla said in a letter that it had taken steps to ensure driver engagement with the system and enhance its safety features.

    The electric automaker introduced new warnings for red lights and stop signs last year "to minimize the potential risk of red light- or stop sign-running as a result of temporary driver inattention," Tesla said in the letter.

    Senator Edward Markey said he believed the potential dangers of Autopilot can be overcome. But he called for "rebranding and remarketing the system to reduce misuse, as well as building backup driver monitoring tools that will make sure no one falls asleep at the wheel."

    Markey's comments came in a press release, with a copy of a Dec. 20 from Tesla addressing some of the Democratic senator's concerns attached.

    Autopilot has been engaged in at least three Tesla vehicles involved in fatal U.S. crashes since 2016.

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    Re: GM upgrades Super Cruise driver-assist system to better match Tesla’s Autopilot

    Must be getting it ready to go into the XT6 for its rollout....what? It's already out? man that Mary is full of ****
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    Re: GM upgrades Super Cruise driver-assist system to better match Tesla’s Autopilot

    To date, I think SuperCruise has not killed a single person. Tesla has a fair sized body count stacking up for Autopilot. But we're probably not going to read that headline in the biased press. Pretty sure if the numbers were reversed, that comparison would get tremendous coverage.

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    Re: GM upgrades Super Cruise driver-assist system to better match Tesla’s Autopilot

    Quote Originally Posted by ksr View Post
    Considering that they can't even fix a problem that they caused with CUE and my radio with a June software update, I really wouldn't put my life in their hands with this super cruise thing. They should jack up health and auto insurance rates for anyone who buys it.

    They put out a TSB that was supposed to fix the problems that I and others have with CUE. It fixes nothing. It has the exact same problems after getting the latest update.

    Cadillac's IT department just be just a giant clown car. I've really come to despise them. Much as I like my car, my fantasy is too fill it with explosives, drive to Cadillac HQ, and light the fuse. Anyone who has known me for five minutes knows that I've been a GM fan for my entire life. I now would advise anyone to stay away from their garbage. Great car, the experience of which has been utterly ruined by their incompetence.
    This sucks man, have you reached out to their person on Facebook? Can you reverse the install and go to prior edition of CUE?

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    Re: GM upgrades Super Cruise driver-assist system to better match Tesla’s Autopilot

    Quote Originally Posted by yamahr1 View Post
    To date, I think SuperCruise has not killed a single person. Tesla has a fair sized body count stacking up for Autopilot. But we're probably not going to read that headline in the biased press. Pretty sure if the numbers were reversed, that comparison would get tremendous coverage.
    In all fairness there are probably 10000x more Teslas on the road with Autopilot vs Caddies w/ SC
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    Re: GM upgrades Super Cruise driver-assist system to better match Tesla’s Autopilot

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    This sucks man, have you reached out to their person on Facebook? Can you reverse the install and go to prior edition of CUE?
    I've talked to their people on Facebook and my dealership's social media people. They're just PR hacks. Anyone associated with Cadillac just tells you to go to your dealership.

    I talked to Cadillac customer service today and told them that the TSB did nothing. I've talked with them in the past too. I talked to my dealership as well. I asked my service advisor today if they could just back out the November and June updates and restore to car to its original, January 2019 condition when it was perfect. Can't do that. I suppose these updates actually replace prior versions of software.

    I think the only possible solution at this point is to have them rip out CUE and replace it with a completely new one. I texted the general manager of my dealership, who has contacted me in the past about my problems. He said that he'd talk to the service manager tomorrow about what to do going forward. He was at a dealer meeting in Detroit last year and said that CUE issues were widely discussed but that there are no solutions ready for some of them.

    They've done the impossible. Driven me away from GM. I'm done. I've owned my car for 12 months. They broke it. And for more than half the time I've had the car, it hasn't been right. Why would anyone submit themselves to that again?
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    Re: GM upgrades Super Cruise driver-assist system to better match Tesla’s Autopilot

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    The thought just crossed my mind as to the disadvantage all established manufacturers have vs. Tesla. Tesla/Elon Musk takes a lot of risks and the public doesn't seem to mind (or flat out just doesn't realize the additional risk), where the legacy manufacturers are very risk-adverse. All the public see's is Tesla has had this fantastic tech for years and no legacy manufacturer can come close. That is tough to compete against and come out on top. So far none of the deaths via Tesla's autopilot have made a dent, but I bet it won't go so well for the legacy manufacturers when one of their self driving cars kills someone, especially for GM. Perceptions.....
    What I bolded.. HUGE!!! Half way makes me thing GM should have completely changed their name back in '09.. along with each division. Of course that's crazy.. since their legacy sells cars all by itself. But yeah.. Autopilot cold kill 10 more people.. no issue from the public.. let Super-Cruise kill one.. and the press will have a field day with it. OH WAIT!!! There's your real reason.. the media. Its sorta like the whole BS of .. "The CTS is nothing but a Chevy with a Cadillac badge" even though it wasn't in any way. The media pushes negativity like a bulldozer pushing dirt and we feed into it.. especially the haters. Tesla.. remember when Teslas used to catch fire too.. and kill peoples? Me neither.. despite the fact that they kill like the Zodiac killer.. and last year is littered with their victims charred bodies.. but the press doesn't harp on it. Let that have been a GM or Ford vehicle where the owner bumped his knee getting out the car and they'd have them on federal hill
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    Re: GM upgrades Super Cruise driver-assist system to better match Tesla’s Autopilot

    I am almost certain no one said, lets improve this to 'better match' Tesla, This system is more advanced than Tesla, Its more like a cruise missile since it has internal maps, satellite system, cameras and Radar..
    The reason for the upgrade is the new electronic architecture which can process data much faster, allowing for the system to change lanes in real time safely with no lag..

    Yup, this is superior, plus, you try falling asleep like in a Tesla, your ride comes to a not so screeching halt... safely...

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    Re: GM upgrades Super Cruise driver-assist system to better match Tesla’s Autopilot

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    I am almost certain no one said, lets improve this to 'better match' Tesla, This system is more advanced than Tesla, Its more like a cruise missile since it has internal maps, satellite system, cameras and Radar.
    Yup. If GM were to "match Tesla" with SuperCruise, they would be making SuperCruise worse.
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