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    Car & Driver: 2015 Cadillac Escalade / Escalade ESV First Drive

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    By: Jeff Sabatini


    When the Cadillac product team describes it as “the Escalade of Escalades,” you can surmise that this 2015 model-year redesign was not a rethinking of the brand’s three-row, body-on-frame SUV. The Escalade remains the Cadillac of GM’s new full-size truck platform, GMT K2, related to Chevrolet’s Tahoe and Suburban and the GMC Yukon brothers big and bigger. As before, there are actually twin Escalades, the 116-inch-wheelbase model and the Suburban-sized Escalade ESV, which gets a 14-inch stretch. Cadillac isn’t saying much about the third member of the family that disappeared after the 2013 model year, the flamboyant Escalade EXT pickup. Perhaps it ran off to Hollywood.

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    LOL at all the FORD fans in this thread thinking they got a one up. This is the Yukon Denali and trust me it's going to blow away the Navigator. Escalade is gunning for RR/Bentley level of interiors and beyond. I've talked to someone about this on another site that confirmed it Navigator isn't even being bench-marked at Cadillac too low for them.
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    Re: Car & Driver: 2015 Cadillac Escalade / Escalade ESV First Drive

    This is going to be real interesting in terms of the Escalade's renewed battle with the Navigator.

    I think the EB V6 in the 'gator is going to be a real selling point, and we know Ford will market the hell out of it. The recent redesign also improves the Navigator's previously tired maw. Factor in a lower base price, and we could actually see a real sales battle for the first time in nearly a decade.

    For my dollar, I'd take the Cadillac every day of the week, but there's a great number of people who will fall for Ford's EcoBoost marketing.
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    Re: Car & Driver: 2015 Cadillac Escalade / Escalade ESV First Drive

    Wasn't sure if they liked it or not?
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    Re: Car & Driver: 2015 Cadillac Escalade / Escalade ESV First Drive

    Quote Originally Posted by rockyspaw View Post
    Wasn't sure if they liked it or not?
    True, kind of a generic no emotion report here. A lot of info but came away not knowing how they really felt about it. Me, I like it and think it is a worthy replacement to the previous generation. I wish they'd do another EXT version but seems to me they said that there wouldn't be a next generation for it.

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    Re: Car & Driver: 2015 Cadillac Escalade / Escalade ESV First Drive

    The only advantage the Navi will have is price - the Corvette V8 in the Slade will have more hp and torque and similar FE. The Slade is 420 hp/460 tq vs 365 hp/420 tq in the Navi, Slade is rated 16/21 fe

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesright View Post
    The only advantage the Navi will have is price - the Corvette V8 in the Slade will have more hp and torque and similar FE. The Slade is 420 hp/460 tq vs 365 hp/420 tq in the Navi, Slade is rated 16/21 fe
    The facts are certainly on your side, but the major advantage for the Navi besides price will be the EB marketing, and as we all know, it's a great equalizer, even if the EcoBoost engine is inferior to a Gen V V8.
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    Re: Car & Driver: 2015 Cadillac Escalade / Escalade ESV First Drive

    It seems other than CUE, which C&D has trashed from the get go, they were very complimentary. I don't think any C&D reviewer sees themselves as a Slade owner...even if they had the cash. I DO get the impression, however. that they believe it hit the target demo bulls-eye.

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    Re: Car & Driver: 2015 Cadillac Escalade / Escalade ESV First Drive

    The next gen needs to be unit body with extensive use of aluminum. At his point these things don't offer a lot of value due to their high prices. The value they offer is to GM.

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    Re: Car & Driver: 2015 Cadillac Escalade / Escalade ESV First Drive

    Why does it have the old Cadillac emblem? Is the Escalade going to keep it?

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    The next gen needs to be unit body with extensive use of aluminum. At his point these things don't offer a lot of value due to their high prices. The value they offer is to GM.
    um, no
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    Re: Car & Driver: 2015 Cadillac Escalade / Escalade ESV First Drive

    Quote Originally Posted by F14CRAZY View Post
    Why does it have the old Cadillac emblem? Is the Escalade going to keep it?



    um, no
    Think about it. Where do they go with pricing if they are going to be able to hit fuel economy targets. They have to get lighter, plus there is a segment that wants IrS and real fold down third, not the bumped up floor they have now. So adding lightness adds cost. These things need to be unit body. And there is no reason why they can't have the same towing capability with a unit body.

    And while they are at it lose the fender gap. Geez GM why can't you just stop with the tire to fender gap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanshmack View Post
    The facts are certainly on your side, but the major advantage for the Navi besides price will be the EB marketing, and as we all know, it's a great equalizer, even if the EcoBoost engine is inferior to a Gen V V8.
    I think if we're comparing the F150 to the Silverado, Ecoboost has some merit.

    But environmentally conscious people with 80K to spend aren't shopping the Escalade - they're looking at the new Tesla. The average Escalade owner's income is waaayyy too low to for any amount of logic to be a factor in the purchase decision. Most of them are mortgaging themselves to the hilt to be concerned with putting a few extra hundred bucks a year in gas on a credit card at 14%. If the average buyer was financially minded enough to be concerned with the gas, they'd never spend this much on a vehicle in the first place (relative to the average income of the buyers)
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    Re: Car & Driver: 2015 Cadillac Escalade / Escalade ESV First Drive

    We have nothing negative to say so we'll bash cue.
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    Re: Car & Driver: 2015 Cadillac Escalade / Escalade ESV First Drive

    There is no competition for the Escalade. The navigator? PUHLEASE. Not even close. The gap is only going to grow since now they are only offering it with the crappy ecoboost engine. 6.2L > 3.5L. When was the last time someone bragged about owning a Navigator? Escalade is the American icon that spells out success and functionality, and 'I'm not a huge douche so I didn't buy some overrated mercedes or audi...'

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    Re: Car & Driver: 2015 Cadillac Escalade / Escalade ESV First Drive

    GM should offer an AWD V-sport version with the supercharged LT4.
    That will better separate the Escalade from the Yukon Denali and make a true competitor to some of the higher end Land Rovers.

    And if I had the cash I would have VIA motors put their powertrain into this package for me.
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    Re: Car & Driver: 2015 Cadillac Escalade / Escalade ESV First Drive

    Quote Originally Posted by goblue View Post
    I think if we're comparing the F150 to the Silverado, Ecoboost has some merit.

    But environmentally conscious people with 80K to spend aren't shopping the Escalade - they're looking at the new Tesla. The average Escalade owner's income is waaayyy too low to for any amount of logic to be a factor in the purchase decision. Most of them are mortgaging themselves to the hilt to be concerned with putting a few extra hundred bucks a year in gas on a credit card at 14%. If the average buyer was financially minded enough to be concerned with the gas, they'd never spend this much on a vehicle in the first place (relative to the average income of the buyers)
    Where are you getting this info from?

    The median household income of an Escalade ESV owner is $259,060, compared with $135,000 for the Suburban. The median income for buyers of the smaller Escalade is $178,222, which is higher than the $120,429 of the Cadillac brand, according to GM.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-1...er-models.html
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