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    LOL at all the FORD fans in this thread thinking they got a one up. This is the Yukon Denali and trust me it's going to blow away the Navigator. Escalade is gunning for RR/Bentley level of interiors and beyond. I've talked to someone about this on another site that confirmed it Navigator isn't even being bench-marked at Cadillac too low for them.
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    So fully loaded, $75,000. With the future Super Cruise option, $80,000+, as predicted.

    That metric sum of money for a car that's:

    1.) Powered "exclusively" by the 3.6L V6, and offers the buyer no up-level motor or hybrid option.

    2.) An anonymous blob of a CUV with derivative styling that looks like it was plucked out of an insurance company commercial.

    3.) Has a subpar interior, and one that's a carbon copy of the XT5's but with wood trim in place of the leather on the dash. Absolutely ridiculous for $80,000, from a design and materials perspective.

    4.) Costs more than the competition to start, and doesn't really offer the buyer anything special at any trim or price point compared to what you can get elsewhere.

    5.) Fuel inefficient, as the 400 HP Lincoln Navigator is more fuel efficient, and offers a hybrid option for those who want it.

    And in person, this car just doesn't look all that great, sorry. Very forgettable, and very odd lines and overall shape for a Cadillac. It's a dud folks.

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    LOL at all the FORD fans in this thread thinking they got a one up. This is the Yukon Denali and trust me it's going to blow away the Navigator. Escalade is gunning for RR/Bentley level of interiors and beyond. I've talked to someone about this on another site that confirmed it Navigator isn't even being bench-marked at Cadillac too low for them.
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    Re: Cadillac XT6 Build and Price Configurator Now Up

    Looks good in person to me, but doesn't photograph very well.

    To sum up this soon to be 10+ page thread. It should have more hp/different engine options, however the target market will be perfectly happy with the engine offered. It isn't rwd based. Fans of Mercedes/Lincoln really don't like it, however, fans of Cadillac's current styling direction do like it. It doesn't offer anything new and exciting, Cadillac already told us why. It is expensive, yet pricing makes sense being between the Escalade and XT5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    Looks good in person to me, but doesn't photograph very well.

    To sum up this soon to be 10+ page thread. It should have more hp/different engine options, however the target market will be perfectly happy with the engine offered. It isn't rwd based. Fans of Mercedes/Lincoln really don't like it, however, fans of Cadillac's current styling direction do like it. It doesn't offer anything new and exciting, Cadillac already told us why. It is expensive, yet pricing makes sense being between the Escalade and XT5.

    Thread over.
    Why thread over? We want Cadillac to become a better brand and the XT6 to become a better car. FWD isn't necessarily a death knell to a CUV, or even a car. Plenty of them make it work. XT6 being FWD isn't close to being its biggest problem.

    XT6 needs more power, better styling, and a better interior. Basically, it needs a full redesign already. Which sucks. It's rare that new cars are DOA right out of the gate, but at the prices they're looking to ask for for this thing... it's hard to defend it.

    Saying "ah that's fine!" and accepting the XT6 for what it currently is just gives GM/Cadillac incentive to mail it in, and that will lead to more dull, uninspired cars like XT6. We don't want that. Or at least I don't, as both a Cadillac fan and owner.
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    LOL at all the FORD fans in this thread thinking they got a one up. This is the Yukon Denali and trust me it's going to blow away the Navigator. Escalade is gunning for RR/Bentley level of interiors and beyond. I've talked to someone about this on another site that confirmed it Navigator isn't even being bench-marked at Cadillac too low for them.
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    If I have the $75K I'll just pop for another $15K and get the "Slade". Someone at Cadillac is on crack. Does Mary really think this will fly? Only the most die hard caddy loyalists who have more cash than brains will go for this'
    I was thinking $65K tops and figured that was a stretch.Then realizedwe're talking XT5. I need some of whatever they're smokin'. They will need $10K on the hood from the jump.

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    LOL at all the FORD fans in this thread thinking they got a one up. This is the Yukon Denali and trust me it's going to blow away the Navigator. Escalade is gunning for RR/Bentley level of interiors and beyond. I've talked to someone about this on another site that confirmed it Navigator isn't even being bench-marked at Cadillac too low for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy4Life View Post
    And in person, this car just doesn't look all that great, sorry. Very forgettable, and very odd lines and overall shape for a Cadillac. It's a dud folks.

    Flame away.
    I agree, a dud from a product/brand elevating perspective. That being said I expect the discounts to start rolling promptly and the sales to be brisk. Those looking for a premium 3-row crossover that's not particularly good at anything will love this at this discount it'll likely have vs. Aviator and others.

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    Here’s my build, about $58K, really no more than an XT5 Prem Lux so third row is basically free. Threw in the ventilated seats and two-seat third row. I don’t even need four seats, let alone six, so might as well make ‘em comfortable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy4Life View Post
    Why thread over? We want Cadillac to become a better brand and the XT6 to become a better car. FWD isn't necessarily a death knell to a CUV, or even a car. Plenty of them make it work. XT6 being FWD isn't close to being its biggest problem.

    XT6 needs more power, better styling, and a better interior. Basically, it needs a full redesign already. Which sucks. It's rare that new cars are DOA right out of the gate, but at the prices they're looking to ask for for this thing... it's hard to defend it.

    Saying "ah that's fine!" and accepting the XT6 for what it currently is just gives GM/Cadillac incentive to mail it in, and that will lead to more dull, uninspired cars like XT6. We don't want that. Or at least I don't, as both a Cadillac fan and owner.
    So what is rehashing the same arguments going to do or offer GM? From my end it looks like GM has abandoned GMI, do you have something that indicates GM still looks at GMI? Mark Reuss used to post and we used to have GM Customer support present, neither have been seen in a long time. And GM explained the XT6 is a stopgap product, so what is complaining about it going to do? They already know it isn't a brand extending product. And if you want them to "fix" it, can't they just read my post? It will give them everything.

    Plus, my take is most of you who don't like the XT6 want Mercedes/German clones which Lincoln is providing. Cadillac, thankfully, is giving us a lineup that is distinctly American. But that is going to leave a substantial faction dissatisfied, the ones who won't admit they want a Mercedes clone and won't rest until Cadillac provides that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    So what is rehashing the same arguments going to do or offer GM? From my end it looks like GM has abandoned GMI, do you have something that indicates GM still looks at GMI? Mark Reuss used to post and we used to have GM Customer support present, neither have been seen in a long time.

    Plus, my take is most of you who don't like the XT6 want Mercedes/German clones which Lincoln is providing. Cadillac, thankfully, is giving us a lineup that is distinctly American. But that is going to leave a substantial faction dissatisfied, the ones who won't admit they want a Mercedes clone and won't rest until Cadillac provides that.
    I would actually argue that it is Lincoln, not Cadillac giving us the lineup that is distinctly American. While Cadillac was busy chasing the BMW (i.e. chasing its tail), Lincoln was quietly developing a lineup that emphasized "Quiet Luxury", which is what American luxury cars used to be. Cadillac promoted cars like the ATS, CTS, and CT6, while Lincoln was focused on cars like Continental, MKX, Navigator, and Aviator. True Cadillac has cars like XTS, XT5, and Escalade, but Cadillac really wanted to be known for sporting intentions, whereas Lincoln was about comfort and luxury first.

    I'm happy Cadillac has changed their mind, but I still think Lincoln is a few steps ahead of them, and XT6 v. Aviator pretty much confirms that.
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    LOL at all the FORD fans in this thread thinking they got a one up. This is the Yukon Denali and trust me it's going to blow away the Navigator. Escalade is gunning for RR/Bentley level of interiors and beyond. I've talked to someone about this on another site that confirmed it Navigator isn't even being bench-marked at Cadillac too low for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    Cadillac, thankfully, is giving us a lineup that is distinctly American.
    With its insipid crossovers, Cadillac is giving prospective customers products that are distinctly soporific.

    Thankfully, Cadillac hasn't given up on its RWD sedans with great driving dynamics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy4Life View Post
    I would actually argue that it is Lincoln, not Cadillac giving us the lineup that is distinctly American. While Cadillac was busy chasing the BMW (i.e. chasing its tail), Lincoln was quietly developing a lineup that emphasized "Quiet Luxury", which is what American luxury cars used to be. Cadillac promoted cars like the ATS, CTS, and CT6, while Lincoln was focused on cars like Continental, MKX, Navigator, and Aviator. True Cadillac has cars like XTS, XT5, and Escalade, but Cadillac really wanted to be known for sporting intentions, whereas Lincoln was about comfort and luxury first.

    I'm happy Cadillac has changed their mind, but I still think Lincoln is a few steps ahead of them, and XT6 v. Aviator pretty much confirms that.
    I look at Lincoln's borrowed Euro styling and Mercedes meets 1970's American interiors and scratch my head how you can call that American.

    Cadillac is about excitement, a moonshot, tailfins inspired by jet fighters. Cadillac stayed true to its heritage, giving us stealth fighter based styling. You don't like it, I get that and everyone is entitled to their opinion and preferences. But why is my preference for Cadillac's current direction wrong and yours is right?

    You like Mercedes and that is the image you want Cadillac to emulate (I think you described the C Class as "lovely"). I like BMW's lean towards performance and am glad Cadillac has chosen to emulate them. I say that because apparently it is copying the Germans if my ATS can perform. But it somehow is NOT copying the Germans if a more comfort oriented vehicle is provided, in the same way Mercedes provides comfort.

    And you keep telling me the Aviator is better, no one has driven it, no one has sat in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gkr778 View Post
    With its insipid crossovers, Cadillac is giving prospective customers products that are distinctly soporific.

    Thankfully, Cadillac hasn't given up on its RWD sedans with great driving dynamics.
    Look at where the CUV sales volume is - soporific. And Lincoln's CUV lineup isn't exactly lighting up the sales charts either, I say that because Lincoln is being held up on a pedestal of "this is the way to go".

    If Lincoln's approach is the way to go, why is the Continental not selling a lot better than the CT6?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    I look at Lincoln's borrowed Euro styling and Mercedes meets 1970's American interiors and scratch my head how you can call that American.

    Cadillac is about excitement, a moonshot, tailfins inspired by jet fighters. Cadillac stayed true to its heritage, giving us stealth fighter based styling. You don't like it, I get that and everyone is entitled to their opinion and preferences. But why is my preference for Cadillac's current direction wrong and yours is right?

    You like Mercedes and that is the image you want Cadillac to emulate (I think you described the C Class as "lovely"). I like BMW's lean towards performance and am glad Cadillac has chosen to emulate them. I say that because apparently it is copying the Germans if my ATS can perform. But it somehow is NOT copying the Germans if a more comfort oriented vehicle is provided, in the same way Mercedes provides comfort.

    And you keep telling me the Aviator is better, no one has driven it, no one has sat in it.
    As far as styling goes, you are in the minority. Lincoln's new styling is resonating well with the public, and people are actually talking about the brand for the first time in... 30 or so years?

    Besides, Cadillac styling is at a low point right now. That stupid derivative Escala concept killed any chance of a jaw dropping, uniquely Cadillac design for the next 5-10 years.

    You can't look at XT6 and say "Wow what a great design!" or "Wow, that's a Cadillac!". It could be anything. A Kia. A Volvo. A Hyundai. A Ford. Anything. It looks like it came out of an Allstate ad.

    All biases aside, it's hard to argue that Cadillac is on a better track than Lincoln right now. Their management is better, their end plan is better and better defined, and most importantly, their cars are better. We can go back-and-forth all day long, but at the end of the day, it's the product that matters, and Lincoln's new cars are better than Cadillac's new cars. As a Cadillac fan I hope this changes, but I'm not holding my breath.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    Look at where the CUV sales volume is - soporific. And Lincoln's CUV lineup isn't exactly lighting up the sales charts either, I say that because Lincoln is being held up on a pedestal of "this is the way to go".

    If Lincoln's approach is the way to go, why is the Continental not selling a lot better than the CT6?
    Because nobody is buying big sedans anymore.

    CT6 isn't exactly lighting up the sales charts. Hell, it had to be resurrected Jesus Christ style to save face, remember?
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    LOL at all the FORD fans in this thread thinking they got a one up. This is the Yukon Denali and trust me it's going to blow away the Navigator. Escalade is gunning for RR/Bentley level of interiors and beyond. I've talked to someone about this on another site that confirmed it Navigator isn't even being bench-marked at Cadillac too low for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyg View Post
    Here’s my build, about $58K, really no more than an XT5 Prem Lux so third row is basically free. Threw in the ventilated seats and two-seat third row. I don’t even need four seats, let alone six, so might as well make ‘em comfortable!

    https://www.cadillac.com/suvs/xt6/bu...stalCode=11971
    I did one that came out at about $62K.

    I suspect that the ATP on the XT6 will be about $70K +/-.
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