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    Re: Cadillac Teases Future of V-Series Performance Legacy

    Quote Originally Posted by RedSkyBlackDream View Post
    Precisely why my first stop after delivery of the car would be at my friends shop to give it a Matte Black wrap including that C-Pillar filler cap.
    Which could be achieved by tinting all of the windows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BahamaTodd View Post
    So the sheet metal looks pretty much the same as the cars from yesterday except the front quarter panels. They are wider behind the wheel and include vents.



    Do the hoods have vents?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKH View Post
    Do the hoods have vents?
    Doesn't look like it.



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    LOL at all the FORD fans in this thread thinking they got a one up. This is the Yukon Denali and trust me it's going to blow away the Navigator. Escalade is gunning for RR/Bentley level of interiors and beyond. I've talked to someone about this on another site that confirmed it Navigator isn't even being bench-marked at Cadillac too low for them.
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    Re: Cadillac Teases Future of V-Series Performance Legacy

    Yes!

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    Re: Cadillac Teases Future of V-Series Performance Legacy

    Quote Originally Posted by gkr778 View Post
    The same Mark Reuss that drove another GM vehicle into a retaining wall at last year's Detroit Grand Prix?

    Was gonna say, would be a shame if he Paul Walkered his way across life's finish line.

    Quote Originally Posted by RedSkyBlackDream View Post
    I bet they didn't intially plan on a "preview" of these vehicles at the Detroit Chevrolet Grand Prix. Brilliant marketing turnaround though. Sad it took the internet to light Caddy's ass on fire for them to shut everyone up. Glad they did this though - No one heard "track capable V's are coming" no matter how many times it was said or read.

    BTW: Those fascias behind the mesh cover-up look more deep, aggressive and far more in line with the outgoing V-Series cars.

    #Sidenote I wonder what the attendees heard coming from both cars exhausts as they lapped... I'm so eager to know.
    Yes, a better title: Cadillac enters damage control mode after major PR blunder.

    CT4-V should have been a Vsport, full stop. CT5-V should have just been the 3.0 in the base car anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by megeebee View Post
    I strongly disagree. This was planned well in advance.

    Cadillac knew full-well the introduction of a new, less powerful set of V cars would have everyone screaming. We all rose to the bait. Journalists and arm-chair experts with Internet access have been on fire for the last 40 hours. This was planned to show that what they told everyone about the more powerful versions coming is true.

    "Keep 'em guessin'"
    There was no bait to rise to. All this proves is that Cadillac knew people would be upset, and went ahead with the plan anyway—eschewing 15 years of V heritage and an already established, underutilized and very self-explanatory sub-brand in Vsport in favor of putting a V on everything like they're AMG and have the legitimacy and credibility to burn to great effect.

    All it proves is that Cadillac is WILLFULLY making ignorant decisions.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1958carnut View Post
    That's what I tend to think. It was done on purpose to get attention. The internet will get all hopped up no matter which way they do it, mundane first-high power later or vice versa. But... I still want one painted up like that blue one
    Yes, GM has proven time and again a history of Machiavellian PR and product decisions. It's all part of the plan, goys.

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    If XT6 was going to have SuperCruise at launch...I think they would've mentioned it in the initial press release. Think about it like this, they probably don't have to do much in development, much of the work is going to be on retrofitting the platform to accept the SuperCruise hardware. I'm pretty sure they baked some portability into it when they developed it initially.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy4Life View Post
    Doesn't look like it.



    So perhaps that indicates the Blackwing V8 for the CT5-V versus the Corvette motor. Possibly they don’t need as much venting on the new V8, or it lets it out at the back of the hood? Not sure what that does to the downforce though.

    The CT5 has vents at the front of the wheel well opening as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKH View Post
    So perhaps that indicates the Blackwing V8 for the CT5-V versus the Corvette motor. Possibly they don’t need as much venting on the new V8, or it lets it out at the back of the hood? Not sure what that does to the downforce though.
    It's interesting that they didn't include a hood vent. It's the first thing I looked for, as it's usually a Cadillac staple on V Series cars.

    I was under the impression that a heavy DOHC TTV8 would need a lot of cooling, but the E63 and M5 don't use hood vents either:

    E63 AMG S (4.0TT V8)



    But then again, the whole entire front end of it is essentially an air intake.

    M5 (4.4 TTV8)



    Same thing with this too.
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    LOL at all the FORD fans in this thread thinking they got a one up. This is the Yukon Denali and trust me it's going to blow away the Navigator. Escalade is gunning for RR/Bentley level of interiors and beyond. I've talked to someone about this on another site that confirmed it Navigator isn't even being bench-marked at Cadillac too low for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy4Life View Post
    It's interesting that they didn't include a hood vent. It's the first thing I looked for, as it's usually a Cadillac staple on V Series cars.

    I was under the impression that a heavy DOHC TTV8 would need a lot of cooling, but the E63 and M5 don't use hood vents either:

    E63 AMG S (4.0TT V8)



    But then again, the whole entire front end of it is essentially an air intake.

    M5 (4.4 TTV8)



    Same thing with this too.
    If the vents aren’t really needed other than for visuals, then not having them on the CT5 could keep costs down. If the CT5-V comes in $5-10K less than the CTS-V that’s a good thing. I often saw adds for the CTS-V with huge markdowns, so making them cheaper means they won’t have to discount the eff out of it, which kills residuals and does nothing to build or imply desirability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKH View Post
    If the vents aren’t really needed other than for visuals, then not having them on the CT5 could keep costs down. If the CT5-V comes in $5-10K less than the CTS-V that’s a good thing. I often saw adds for the CTS-V with huge markdowns, so making them cheaper means they won’t have to discount the eff out of it, which kills residuals and does nothing to build or imply desirability.
    Autoweek is talking/speculating around $57K for CT5-V announced yesterday. Add $10K for Fire Breather??

    CT4-V of course less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKH View Post
    If the vents aren’t really needed other than for visuals, then not having them on the CT5 could keep costs down. If the CT5-V comes in $5-10K less than the CTS-V that’s a good thing. I often saw adds for the CTS-V with huge markdowns, so making them cheaper means they won’t have to discount the eff out of it, which kills residuals and does nothing to build desireablity.
    Interesting. It's going to be interesting where they price the proper CT5-V at. I'm guessing they're going to straddle C63 and E63 pricing, to offer a bigger car for less money.

    Man, I will miss this thing though...



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    LOL at all the FORD fans in this thread thinking they got a one up. This is the Yukon Denali and trust me it's going to blow away the Navigator. Escalade is gunning for RR/Bentley level of interiors and beyond. I've talked to someone about this on another site that confirmed it Navigator isn't even being bench-marked at Cadillac too low for them.
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    Re: Cadillac Teases Future of V-Series Performance Legacy

    I’m expecting a turbo 6 for the CT4 and next gen LT1 for the CT5. Though of course the blackwing could be used.
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    It’s amazing how much better the M5 looks versus the standard 5 Series, which is milquetoast and tepid in the extreme.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SKH View Post
    It’s amazing how much better the M5 looks versus the standard 5 Series, which is milquetoast and tepid in the extreme.

    I agree, they did a great job on it.

    I absolutely love the Snapper Rocks Blue on it:

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