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    Re: Cadillac Resets Itís Sight

    30 min video...too long
    Cadillac Resets Its Sight..okay.. what they are aiming at now?

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    Re: Cadillac Resets Itís Sight

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg.Botts View Post
    You guys joke but that's one of the reasons why I was banned and the mods know this. I ain't sorry either Buicks are far nicer vehicles than Lincolns and others agree that's why Lincoln doesn't even come close to selling as many Buicks look at China Lincoln is floundering over there while Buick sells over 1 million vehicles
    So you certainly feel that Buick is a far superior car and brand to Cadillac due to its considerably higher sales, yes?
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    LOL at all the FORD fans in this thread thinking they got a one up. This is the Yukon Denali and trust me it's going to blow away the Navigator. Escalade is gunning for RR/Bentley level of interiors and beyond. I've talked to someone about this on another site that confirmed it Navigator isn't even being bench-marked at Cadillac too low for them.
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    Re: Cadillac Resets Itís Sight

    Heard a rumor that the CT6-V's are delayed delivery until August via a note from Carlisle adding that they may have 50 miles on them but hey here's an artist sketch of your car to sooth you in the meantime.

    Sounds like those sights still need some adjustment.
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    Re: Cadillac Resets Itís Sight

    Quote Originally Posted by gkr778 View Post
    GMI moderators/admins, please don't ban this member. The entertainment value alone of posts like this makes his presence worthwhile.
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    It's true. At the secret moderator meeting we've decided that we hate the word Buick so much, we will ban people for even uttering it!
    Quote Originally Posted by Greg.Botts View Post
    another example of the mods not being impartial like they are supposed to be
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    It's a joke Botts. Try to have a good time and be less indignant.

    Damn, now bball will see this!
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    Damn you.

    Mods are supposed to be impartial? I missed that part of the swearing in ceremony.
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    Well, I learned I'm "biased" today, so so much for me being impartial.
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    Buick Buick Buick!!!
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    Can't spell "Buick" without I-C-K.
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    You guys joke but that's one of the reasons why I was banned and the mods know this. I ain't sorry either Buicks are far nicer vehicles than Lincolns and others agree that's why Lincoln doesn't even come close to selling as many Buicks look at China Lincoln is floundering over there while Buick sells over 1 million vehicles
    ...and the beat goes on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1958carnut View Post
    ...and the beat goes on.
    His mother really needs to get him out of the basement more often! The lack of sunlight is obviously affecting him.

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    Re: Cadillac Resets Itís Sight

    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post
    A) No one should have to feel obligated to to dog out GM just to seem unbiased if they are biased. I'm biased as a mofo.

    B) The 2.7L may have been developed by initially for trucks.. But who is to say that it was midway modified for cars? Who is to say that the engine for the Caddy is even the samd as the Silvy's? Lastly.. And this is real.. THE 6.2L LT1.. U really think that engine was initially and only developed for the Corvette/Camaro vs GM developing it INITIALLY and then veering off for both trucks and sports car? I said initially. And we both know that there are people who refer to the Vette engine as a Truck engine.. But who the *** cares? It gets the job done and does so quite smoothly, quite quickly, and quite victoriously. 🙂 I challenge a 911 Turbo to take a Z06 owner on.

    Sidebar. Who's to say that the engine in the CLAamg wasn't initially developed for a Benz truck? Benz, if so, just knows when to keep their mouth shut
    A) Hold on there partner. We never said anything about people being biased unto itself. The issue comes in when those biased people continuously spout that their favorite brand is better. I've told many people (you numerous times) that sharing an opinion is fine. But the SuperFanBoys will go beyond their opinion to posting countless posts making one marginal advantage of their choice vehicle sound like the thing that will bring about world peace. State an opinion or fact, watch the responses, add some facts or opinion (without being belligerent) & enjoy the conversation.

    B) I'll start with the LT1 here. The entire Gen 5 (like the Gen 3 & 4) engines were designed with 2 different paths from the outset. So to claim that the LT1 was designed as a performance engine that was re-engineered for truck use is grasping at straws. The 2.7L is a complete cluster**** of marketing by GM. GM is so afraid of customer backlash from the engine, they threw that "designed as a truck engine" line in there to "comfort" potential buyers. However, on the flip side, it could be brilliant marketing to scare customers into buying a truck with a V8 engine. For the CT4-V, all they had to do was tune the engine a little differently to get higher HP/torque numbers & call it a performance engine. Whatever GM, whatever.

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    I know. I was on here years ago when it was so much better. Left for a few years and just rejoined. but I've seen the extreme Ford bias and cheap shots taken and allowed. It's so obvious. The moderators let it go on that side for some reason. I mean you can see the reason...
    GMI has had sections for other brands for as long as I have been a member here. The reason you're seeing more "extreme Ford bias" is all of the GM supporters have refused to support GM because GM didn't build the vehicle some of us wanted when it came time to drop some dollars & sign on the dotted line.

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    I wish you guys would stop quoting him because then it defies the purpose of ignore.
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    GMI moderators/admins, please don't ban this member. The entertainment value alone of posts like this makes his presence worthwhile.
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    Re: Cadillac Resets Itís Sight

    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy4Life View Post
    So you certainly feel that Buick is a far superior car and brand to Cadillac due to its considerably higher sales, yes?
    A Billion Chinese can't be wrong.

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    To NoStopN cause I'm on the enhanced version and it's a pia to reformat the multi quotes.

    I don't agree entirely with "A." It's your opinion, I have mine.. Move on. Partner

    To "B." The level of condescension in some of your posts is amazing.. And to think that I have to answer them while on a "short leash" sucks. 😞

    Concerning the 2.7L U don't actually know if it also was designed to go both ways and GM just marketed one of the directions as a "Truck Engine." Second.. Who the *** cares if it's powerful, has minimal NVH, thus smooth and quiet when necessary, and is reliably appropriate for the Cadillac application? As for the 6.2L, not even needing repeat saying LT1... I'll just say that both the previous Vortec and Ecotec are residing in both Silvy/Sierra and (Yukon Denali) the co-Flagship of Cadillac.. the Escalade. A bona-fide truck engine in the $100K Caddy makes it fine for a supposed truck engine to reside in a $50K CT4V.
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    Re: Cadillac Resets Itís Sight

    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy4Life View Post
    So you certainly feel that Buick is a far superior car and brand to Cadillac due to its considerably higher sales, yes?
    Low level bait not falling for it smartguy get back to be when Lincoln builds something actually competitive instead of a rebadge

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    Re: Cadillac Resets Itís Sight

    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post
    Concerning the 2.7L U don't actually know if it also was designed to go both ways and GM just marketed one of the directions as a "Truck Engine." Second.. Who the *** cares if it's powerful, has minimal NVH, thus smooth and quiet when necessary, and is reliably appropriate for the Cadillac application?
    Until GMI members or other third parties have an opportunity to evaluate the 2.7L engine in CT4-V, we cannot make the claim that the engine "is reliably appropriate for the Cadillac application", or that it isn't.

    No 4-cylinder gasoline engine in a modern era Cadillac has been competitive with the best in the segment for power delivery and NVH. The 2.7L unit in CT4-V might change that. But I'm not holding my breath. Raiding the GM Powertrain parts bin for Cadillac engine and transmission applications hasn't helped the brand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post
    To NoStopN cause I'm on the enhanced version and it's a pia to reformat the multi quotes.

    I don't agree entirely with "A." It's your opinion, I have mine.. Move on. Partner

    To "B." The level of condescension in some of your posts is amazing.. And to think that I have to answer them while on a "short leash" sucks. ��

    Concerning the 2.7L U don't actually know if it also was designed to go both ways and GM just marketed one of the directions as a "Truck Engine." Second.. Who the *** cares if it's powerful, has minimal NVH, thus smooth and quiet when necessary, and is reliably appropriate for the Cadillac application? As for the 6.2L, not even needing repeat saying LT1... I'll just say that both the previous Vortec and Ecotec are residing in both Silvy/Sierra and (Yukon Denali) the co-Flagship of Cadillac.. the Escalade. A bona-fide truck engine in the $100K Caddy makes it fine for a supposed truck engine to reside in a $50K CT4V.


    Quote Originally Posted by gkr778 View Post
    Until GMI members or other third parties have an opportunity to evaluate the 2.7L engine in CT4-V, we cannot make the claim that the engine "is reliably appropriate for the Cadillac application", or that it isn't.

    Hence me adding the IF in the statement


    No 4-cylinder gasoline engine in a modern era Cadillac has been competitive with the best in the segment for power delivery and NVH. The 2.7L unit in CT4-V might change that. But I'm not holding my breath. Raiding the GM Powertrain parts bin for Cadillac engine and transmission applications hasn't helped the brand.
    I'm holding my breath.. because unlike some.. I tend to think positively on American products versus the Germans. I would also like to add that even if.. I would take a GM (or Ford 4Cyl over a BMW one for the sake of reliability and not burning up for mysterious reasons. Yes.. I'm still on that and use it in the real world at every turn to try and discredit and add leery vibes to BMW faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy4Life View Post
    So you certainly feel that Buick is a far superior car and brand to Cadillac due to its considerably higher sales, yes?
    Does this thinking apply to Aviator/XT6 discussion? In other words, if Aviator outsells XT6 nobody on this forum should say its a better vehicle because more people bought it? And vice versa?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg.Botts View Post
    Low level bait not falling for it smartguy get back to be when Lincoln builds something actually competitive instead of a rebadge
    Lol.

    Is the Ram a better truck than the Silverado?

    Quote Originally Posted by dannyg View Post
    Does this thinking apply to Aviator/XT6 discussion? In other words, if Aviator outsells XT6 nobody on this forum should say its a better vehicle because more people bought it? And vice versa?
    Nope, it's calling out the double standard that sales = better car, and that argument is only used as a last resort when somebody has nothing else to say to refute a point you make.

    As far as XT6 v. Aviator goes, the choice should be pretty obvious. Swap the badges, and GMI would go gaga over the Cadillac Aviator.
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    LOL at all the FORD fans in this thread thinking they got a one up. This is the Yukon Denali and trust me it's going to blow away the Navigator. Escalade is gunning for RR/Bentley level of interiors and beyond. I've talked to someone about this on another site that confirmed it Navigator isn't even being bench-marked at Cadillac too low for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy4Life View Post
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    Nope, it's calling out the double standard that sales = better car, and that argument is only used as a last resort when somebody has nothing else to say to refute a point you make.

    As far as XT6 v. Aviator goes, the choice should be pretty obvious. Swap the badges, and GMI would go gaga over the Cadillac Aviator.
    OK fair enough. But you know that if the Aviator outsells the XT6 there will be people (not you) who will say that “proves” it is better.

    Having seen both at the NYAS I can say I personally prefer the XT6 design hands down. Yes including the interior (that ipad on the dash *shudder*). Of course I’d like them to offer an optional engine with more power. We all agree on that. I probably wouldn’t pay for it though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyg View Post
    OK fair enough. But you know that if the Aviator outsells the XT6 there will be people (not you) who will say that “proves” it is better.

    Having seen both at the NYAS I can say I personally prefer the XT6 design hands down. Yes including the interior (that ipad on the dash *shudder*). Of course I’d like them to offer an optional engine with more power. We all agree on that. I probably wouldn’t pay for it though.
    If I'm being honest, I don't think either one looks particularly great out in the real world under natural light, but the Aviator is more... lithe? I'm not sure how to describe it. XT6 just doesn't look like a Cadillac to me. Too much Telluride in its design for me.

    I gotta go with the Lincoln. The interior, drivetrain, and Black Label perks would push it over the top in a head to head for me.
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    LOL at all the FORD fans in this thread thinking they got a one up. This is the Yukon Denali and trust me it's going to blow away the Navigator. Escalade is gunning for RR/Bentley level of interiors and beyond. I've talked to someone about this on another site that confirmed it Navigator isn't even being bench-marked at Cadillac too low for them.
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