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    Cadillac Has No Current Plans for the Blackwing V-8

    Cadillac Has No Current Plans for the Blackwing V-8
    At the reveal of the 2021 Escalade, we spoke to Cadillac president Steve Carlisle about the future of the brand.
    Road and Track
    By Chris Perkins
    Feb 10, 2020



    Back in 2018, Cadillac revealed its first in-house V-8 since the Northstar. With twin turbos and dual overhead camshafts, this engine, called the Blackwing, was no Small Block. In the big CT6 sedan it had a perfect home, cranking out 550 hp and 640 lb-ft of torque in the CT6-V.

    Unfortunately, the CT6 will end U.S. production this month, as GM will retool the Detroit plant where it's built to produce electric trucks, leaving the Blackwing orphaned. At the reveal of the 2021 Escalade last week, Cadillac president Steve Carlisle told Road & Track that "[we have] no specific plans for that engine, but never is a long time."

    The Blackwing apparently doesn't fit under the hood of the new CT5 sedan, so Cadillac will instead use the old CTS-V's 6.2-liter supercharged pushrod V-8 for the version slotting above the CT5-V. No one at Cadillac would confirm or deny that this is the case. Instead, they just promised that we'll learn more about this car in the coming months. But Carlisle's comment seems to indicate that Cadillac will take the small-block route for its sports sedan.
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    Re: Cadillac Has No Current Plans for the Blackwing V-8

    I don't think the link is working in your post. But in any event, never have I walked away from a Steve Carlisle interview with any confidence that he knows what he's doing.
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    Re: Cadillac Has No Current Plans for the Blackwing V-8

    What a colossal waste of investment funds but it certainly makes the 2020 CT6-V Blackwing cars instant collectables.
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    Re: Cadillac Has No Current Plans for the Blackwing V-8

    Quote Originally Posted by tripowergto Jan2003 View Post
    What a colossal waste of investment funds but it certainly makes the 2020 CT6-V Blackwing cars instant collectables.
    Ya - keep one garaged and low-no miles and you will almost certainly make money $$ on it.

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    Re: Cadillac Has No Current Plans for the Blackwing V-8

    Quote Originally Posted by NHRATA01 View Post
    I don't think the link is working in your post. But in any event, never have I walked away from a Steve Carlisle interview with any confidence that he knows what he's doing.
    Sorry about that. Fixed.

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    Re: Cadillac Has No Current Plans for the Blackwing V-8

    So the Blackwing V-8 resonated so much with customers that they cancelled it and decided to append the NAME to other vehicles which won't have the Blackwing. Absolute genius! The Cadillac brand resonates with me (yeah, I'm a mosaicist), so I'm going to buy a 2005, 200,000 mile Toyota Corolla and christen it "Cadillac" and voila, I will have a Cadillac! Thanks Steve you absolute ****ing moron!

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    Re: Cadillac Has No Current Plans for the Blackwing V-8

    Quote Originally Posted by tripowergto Jan2003 View Post
    What a colossal waste of investment funds but it certainly makes the 2020 CT6-V Blackwing cars instant collectables.
    and A parts nightmare in 20 years

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    Re: Cadillac Has No Current Plans for the Blackwing V-8

    Quote Originally Posted by richmond2000 View Post
    and A parts nightmare in 20 years
    Not necessarily. I own an orphaned 2009 Pontiac G8 GT. While brand new GM replacement parts are becoming difficult to locate, the internet is your friend. Everything can be found in solid used condition, you'll just have to put more effort into finding them and perhaps pay a bit more. Every wrecked car becomes a treasure trove of parts for other survivors.
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    Re: Cadillac Has No Current Plans for the Blackwing V-8

    Quote Originally Posted by richmond2000 View Post
    and A parts nightmare in 20 years
    Though really no different than a Ferrari, Lambo and any other low volume make.

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    Re: Cadillac Has No Current Plans for the Blackwing V-8

    It’s amazing that a company as big as Cadillac can completely fail to understand why something generated excitement. The Blackwing V8 wasn’t interesting because it’s called Blackwing. Cadillac is a complete disaster. I can’t believe GM sank so much money into a company so poorly run.

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    Re: Cadillac Has No Current Plans for the Blackwing V-8

    Title should say "Cadillac has no current plans...period"

    The problem with Cadillac and other American brands is that they cornered themselves by trying to build on a brand that centers on American muscle when in fact, the rest of the world (like it or not--I don't like it) has just moved on.

    Their biggest mistake wasn't getting into the CUV market too late (I believe they never should have), but, making the Volt a Chevy instead of a Caddy (by the time ELR came out it was already too late) and making the Bolt a Chevy instead of a Caddy. As a result you are now sealing your fate because the public now sees a GM-based BEV and/or hybrid as a value play and not a "here's what the future holds".

    In my view, it will be very hard to return Cadillac to the "standard of the world". That's gone. The real question now is their relevance outside the US/China and then at all once the ICE era ends. Because now you are also competing against a growing relevance on the car sharing market that has no need for cars like the ones Cadillac makes.
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    Re: Cadillac Has No Current Plans for the Blackwing V-8

    Quote Originally Posted by GMOwner View Post
    Title should say "Cadillac has no current plans...period"

    The problem with Cadillac and other American brands is that they cornered themselves by trying to build on a brand that centers on American muscle when in fact, the rest of the world (like it or not--I don't like it) has just moved on.

    Their biggest mistake wasn't getting into the CUV market too late (I believe they never should have), but, making the Volt a Chevy instead of a Caddy (by the time ELR came out it was already too late) and making the Bolt a Chevy instead of a Caddy. As a result you are now sealing your fate because the public now sees a GM-based BEV and/or hybrid as a value play and not a "here's what the future holds".

    In my view, it will be very hard to return Cadillac to the "standard of the world". That's gone. The real question now is their relevance outside the US/China and then at all once the ICE era ends. Because now you are also competing against a growing relevance on the car sharing market that has no need for cars like the ones Cadillac makes.
    GM has no interest in making Cadillac the "standard of the world". That's been obvious a long time. They're just looking to make it a profitable luxury car line. They're mass produced vehicles out of GM plants.

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    Re: Cadillac Has No Current Plans for the Blackwing V-8

    Quote Originally Posted by tripowergto Jan2003 View Post
    Not necessarily. I own an orphaned 2009 Pontiac G8 GT. While brand new GM replacement parts are becoming difficult to locate, the internet is your friend. Everything can be found in solid used condition, you'll just have to put more effort into finding them and perhaps pay a bit more. Every wrecked car becomes a treasure trove of parts for other survivors.
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    Re: Cadillac Has No Current Plans for the Blackwing V-8

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    Though really no different than a Ferrari, Lambo and any other low volume make.
    Yes, but this is a Cadillac.

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    Re: Cadillac Has No Current Plans for the Blackwing V-8

    Looks like Caddy Society has a slightly different view:

    “Reading between the lines, here’s our interpretation of the Carlisle’s comments: Cadillac currently has no plans for the Blackwing for any upcoming models, but it’s also not being discontinued outright. Instead, it might make an appearance in a special-edition vehicle in the future, though which model or when it could potentially come to market is currently anyone’s guess.“

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