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    Re: WHAM!!! Cadillac Explains the C-Pillar in Interview with Automobile Magazine

    Quote Originally Posted by Z284ever View Post
    Exactly. Why would a journalist ask a question like that in an interview, unless it required explanation?
    Because Automobile journalists don't live in a bubble and they read all of the supposed enthusiasts rants about literally 1/95 of the car's entire design, so they ask.. "What's the motivation behind the controversy?"

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    To me, the A7 has some odd angles that I'd like explained, especially in such an expensive vehicle. Either way, we've seen many times before where the car companies discuss design elements of their vehicles. I don't see it as unusual that GM is discussing this trim piece.

    Why do I feel like the world has moved past this trim piece, but GMI hasn't.
    Because GMI hasn't. Hence the reason why I saw the piece and posted it. The more GMI hates it.. the more I love it.
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    Re: WHAM!!! Cadillac Explains the C-Pillar in Interview with Automobile Magazine

    Quote Originally Posted by Z284ever View Post
    Exactly. Why would a journalist ask a question like that in an interview, unless it required explanation?
    Ask the Journalist.
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    Re: WHAM!!! Cadillac Explains the C-Pillar in Interview with Automobile Magazine

    Quote Originally Posted by megeebee View Post
    Ask the Journalist.
    Allow me to speculate. He is thinking, WTF!!! like most of the folks at GMI.
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    Re: WHAM!!! Cadillac Explains the C-Pillar in Interview with Automobile Magazine

    In other news and positive things read and seen.. I like how they went with a nice open pore wood and very nice framing of metal around



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    Re: WHAM!!! Cadillac Explains the C-Pillar in Interview with Automobile Magazine

    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post
    LOL.. once the Accord took the styling.. the Audi's styling ceased to matter. Besides.. I thought they both debuted the design for the 2018 model year
    The Audi A7 came out in 2010 and helped set a trend for modern fastback sedan style. The Accord copied it and did a very nice job.

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    Re: WHAM!!! Cadillac Explains the C-Pillar in Interview with Automobile Magazine

    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post
    NOW THAT!!! Looks like a knock off of the HONDA ACCORD.
    Just can't help yourself?......................


    Quote Originally Posted by fastrehotrods View Post
    Oh, so that clears it up, I love the design now....



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    If your explanation has to be that long winded, it's not really the best design idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    To me, the A7 has some odd angles that I'd like explained, especially in such an expensive vehicle. Either way, we've seen many times before where the car companies discuss design elements of their vehicles. I don't see it as unusual that GM is discussing this trim piece.

    Why do I feel like the world has moved past this trim piece, but GMI hasn't.
    Most the world doesn't even know this car exists.


    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post
    Because Automobile journalists don't live in a bubble and they read all of the supposed enthusiasts rants about literally 1/95 of the car's entire design, so they ask.. "What's the motivation behind the controversy?"
    I think I've got it figured out; GM had a contract with minimum orders from the "Plastic Rear-Quarter Piece Company" and since Cruze sales are all but done, they are buying them for this Cadillac



    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post
    Because GMI hasn't. Hence the reason why I saw the piece and posted it. The more GMI hates it.. the more I love it.
    So your thinking is 100% reactionary, and 0% independent thought?
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    Re: WHAM!!! Cadillac Explains the C-Pillar in Interview with Automobile Magazine

    So....
    If the CT5 didn't have The Window, it would be accused of being a knockoff of an Accord that is a knockoff of an Audi.

    I think it looks just fine, plus they can't be accused of plagiarizing anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jesda1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post
    LOL.. once the Accord took the styling.. the Audi's styling ceased to matter. Besides.. I thought they both debuted the design for the 2018 model year
    The Audi A7 came out in 2010 and helped set a trend for modern fastback sedan style. The Accord copied it and did a very nice job.

    Please stop saying stupid things.
    I'm not. He posted a pic of the 2018/19. I re-faced that car with a 2018/19 Accord face. The 2010 A7 is not the same as the 2018 in styling. Nothing I said was stupid.
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    Re: WHAM!!! Cadillac Explains the C-Pillar in Interview with Automobile Magazine

    The CT5 deserves a unique side design theme , and I quite like the American version of the Hoffmeister kink.
    I want a car so violent that the mere thought of full throttle would cause a heart attack. That actually going wide open throttle in would result in nothing less than instant death!
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    Re: WHAM!!! Cadillac Explains the C-Pillar in Interview with Automobile Magazine

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    The CT5 deserves a unique side design theme , and I quite like the American version of the Hoffmeister kink.
    Would have been an elegant touch.
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    Re: WHAM!!! Cadillac Explains the C-Pillar in Interview with Automobile Magazine

    I wish he explained how this abomination passed through the digital rendering phase of exterior development. Also, why they choose the exterior design language of Hyundai sedans as benchmark, not MB, BMW, Tesla or Audi. I know I'm being overly pessimistic about the CT5, but this sedan does not look like "The Standard of the World." Does Cadillac even identify with prideful slogan anymore? Don't get me wrong, Cadillac's recent interiors feel and look fantastic in person. Not quite of par with MB, nevertheless Cadillac is making tremendous progress. Also, the new Blackwing TTV8 engine represents a new era of exclusive, luxury engines for the brand. Cadillac can try to fool me with press release photos of a dark grey painted, fully optioned CT5 sitting in a unlit background to hide it's Quasimodo appearance. But, we will see base model CT5s with white paint on the road during sunny days ruining what's left of Cadillac's attractiveness. Don't bother teasing the hopefuls with the Escala concept when you deliver something that looks like this.


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    In other news and positive things read and seen.. I like how they went with a nice open pore wood and very nice framing of metal around


    The speaker grill caught my eye in another thread. I like how its built into the countours of the door.

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    I wish he explained how this abomination passed through the digital rendering phase of exterior development. Also, why they choose the exterior design language of Hyundai sedans as benchmark, not MB, BMW, Tesla or Audi. I know I'm being overly pessimistic about the CT5, but this sedan does not look like "The Standard of the World." Does Cadillac even identify with prideful slogan anymore? Don't get me wrong, Cadillac's recent interiors feel and look fantastic in person. Not quite of par with MB, nevertheless Cadillac is making tremendous progress. Also, the new Blackwing TTV8 engine represents a new era of exclusive, luxury engines for the brand. Cadillac can try to fool me with press release photos of a dark grey painted, fully optioned CT5 sitting in a unlit background to hide it's Quasimodo appearance. But, we will see base model CT5s with white paint on the road during sunny days ruining what's left of Cadillac's attractiveness. Don't bother teasing the hopefuls with the Escala concept when you deliver something that looks like this.

    Just curious, do you like the CT6?

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    Re: WHAM!!! Cadillac Explains the C-Pillar in Interview with Automobile Magazine

    Quote Originally Posted by fastrehotrods View Post
    Oh, so that clears it up, I love the design now....



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    If your explanation has to be that long winded, it's not really the best design idea.

    Three concise sentences, one paragraph?

    Maybe he can just grunt if asked again.
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    I think a lot of the controversy in general concerning the CT5's styling really stems from Cadillac dramatically changing it from what the Art and Science approach to luxury that it has been pushing for almost two decades. "We started off with lines.. then those lines began to curve.. now we are into circles." I brought up the move from the Corvette moving to the C7 a while ago now.. in this CT5 debate.. and I think it sticks. There were some over at the Corvette forums... that absolutely hated the fact that the lights looked like this in the rear..




    instead of this:



    I actually remember one dude threatening to never even look at a Corvette again unless Chevy came out with a retro fit kit.

    So goes the idea of change.. And some just can't stand it. Gen3 CTS didn't sell... So GM, bless their hearts decided that instead of following the Gen2 formula in the first place with variants and promotion, have decided to go back to Gen1 as a tweener. Hopefully they wise up and utilize this fastback looking vehicle and morph a real coupe out of it too add sales. Hopefully the pricing is not to high, but still not to low. And on that I believe they are going to have a "Snow Leopard" base model that exists at 3 dealers thru out the country... I constantly rant on the fact that finding a 2.0L CT6 is an exercise in futility.. With what I just counted as 5 in all miles in the US from where I am. And even they start above $55K.. none at that supposed $50K starting price. Of course I have zero problem with that because my thought is that the CT6 should be starting at the same price point of a 720i if it existed here.. And that would most likely be in the high $60K range. I'd never buy it... Opting for the 750i or B7 equivalent everytime at a higher price. Because why posture at this level. The CT5 will most likely be the exact same I regards to price. From. The vehicle I saw at the show. The Premium Lux.. There was not one E450 or A6 there that looked as luxury or as good. They were pricing them at $60K and I think the CT5, for the sake of argument should, in Premium Lux be no less than $56K...even though if they priced it at the same as the Germans I wouldn't squawk..
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