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    Cadillac Boss: Cadillac Diesels in 2019, Possible 911 Fighter in a Decade

    Johan de Nysschen: Cadillac Diesels in 2019, Possible 911 Fighter in a Decade
    Car and Driver
    November 21, 2014 at 5:46 pm by Davey G. Johnson

    There’s been consternation. There’s been hand-wringing. There’s been the gnashing of teeth. If new president Johan de Nysschen hasn’t turned Cadillac on its ear, he’s certainly stirred the pot with the new CT/XT(X) naming scheme and the GM division’s impending move to the island of Manhattan. At this point, both are done deals. So rather than rehash that stuff, we sat down with him at the L.A. auto show to talk product. Specifically, what we can expect to see from the General’s prestige brand in the next decade . . .

    OIL BURNING, TIRE-SMOKING ACTION FOR 2019

    Audi has diesels. Mercedes-Benz has diesels. Even über-sportlich BMW sells compression-ignition automobiles in the United States. To expand globally, Cadillac obviously needs to burn oil, and not just at midnight. “Diesel is the fastest, most cost-effective way to reduce CO2 and emissions,” says de Nysschen. “I think it has to be part of our portfolio approach to meeting compliance. Cadillac also wants to be more global and less U.S.-centric, and for many markets, diesel is simply a prerequisite. We will introduce an all-new diesel engine developed specifically for Cadillac by around 2019.”

    When we ask whether that includes U.S.-market oil-burners, he succinctly asserts that, “We have a global plan.” And yes, that global plan includes both four- and six-cylinder diesel engines.

    TAKING THE FIGHT TO THE 911 AFTER 2020

    Audi took the first shot at Porsche’s ubiquitous 911 with its Lamborghini Gallardo–based R8. Mercedes followed just this year with the AMG GT. Yet de Nysschen thinks the time isn’t quite right for Cadillac to leap into that fray: “If you do a high-performance car like the 911, R8, or AMG GT too soon, then you run the risk of being too far removed from where the epicenter of the brand is, so it struggles to have relevance for people. The Acura NSX was a great car, highly acclaimed. But it was so far removed from their other products at the time that I don’t think it did much for the brand. It was the right time for Audi to do the R8 (in 2007). In the long term, yes, I can imagine that there’s such a car, but it’s in the long-term. Beyond 2020. Not 20 years, much closer than that.”

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    Re: Cadillac Boss: Cadillac Diesels in 2019, Possible 911 Fighter in a Decade

    Beyond 2020≠10 years. Means >6 years.

    Don't kill my dreams.

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    Re: Cadillac Boss: Cadillac Diesels in 2019, Possible 911 Fighter in a Decade

    Quote Originally Posted by sfbreh View Post
    Beyond 2020≠10 years. Means >6 years.

    Don't kill my dreams.
    Cadillac building a 911 equivalent in 6 plus years (if ever) isn't a dream. It's a raging delusion.

    This is another case where an auto executive should do a drug test before an interview.

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    Re: Cadillac Boss: Cadillac Diesels in 2019, Possible 911 Fighter in a Decade

    If GM is going to allow Cadillac so spend that much money on new products, they better start selling some cars, or it will be time for a new Cadillac exec who can get results without spending GM's entire R&D budget

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    Re: Cadillac Boss: Cadillac Diesels in 2019, Possible 911 Fighter in a Decade

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    If GM is going to allow Cadillac so spend that much money on new products, they better start selling some cars, or it will be time for a new Cadillac exec who can get results without spending GM's entire R&D budget
    You really need to keep up with the Cadillac threads...

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    Re: Cadillac Boss: Cadillac Diesels in 2019, Possible 911 Fighter in a Decade

    They pretty much already tried that before with the XLR; the only way they could possibly come close to a 911 fighter is to use yet another Alpha variant, or ride on the Corvette chassis again.

    In the case of the latter, IF they actually do go mid-engined for the C8, they'll have a Cayman fighter, not a 911 fighter.
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    Re: Cadillac Boss: Cadillac Diesels in 2019, Possible 911 Fighter in a Decade

    Quote Originally Posted by Sox View Post
    Cadillac building a 911 equivalent in 6 plus years (if ever) isn't a dream. It's a raging delusion.

    This is another case where a GM executive should do a drug test before an interview.
    Fixed!

    Yet another testimonial that makes the need for a Genial Motors PR Czar painfully obvious. This sort of big talk is locker room stuff. To say it in public is simply foolish.

    JUST DO IT.

    This guy will be a water cooler joke by 2019 and there will be NO 911 "competitor." Unless it's a Corvettilac.
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    Re: Cadillac Boss: Cadillac Diesels in 2019, Possible 911 Fighter in a Decade

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    If GM is going to allow Cadillac so spend that much money on new products, they better start selling some cars, or it will be time for a new Cadillac exec who can get results without spending GM's entire R&D budget
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    You really need to keep up with the Cadillac threads...
    Johan might be the one that needs to keep-up, daddy is cutting off his allowance, time to earn your own keep.
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    Re: Cadillac Boss: Cadillac Diesels in 2019, Possible 911 Fighter in a Decade

    He didn't say anything about RHD.
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    Johan de Nysschen: Cadillac Diesels in 2019, Possible 911 Fighter in a Decade
    Car and Driver
    November 21, 2014 at 5:46 pm by Davey G. Johnson

    There’s been consternation. There’s been hand-wringing. There’s been the gnashing of teeth. If new president Johan de Nysschen hasn’t turned Cadillac on its ear, he’s certainly stirred the pot with the new CT/XT(X) naming scheme and the GM division’s impending move to the island of Manhattan. At this point, both are done deals. So rather than rehash that stuff, we sat down with him at the L.A. auto show to talk product. Specifically, what we can expect to see from the General’s prestige brand in the next decade . . .

    OIL BURNING, TIRE-SMOKING ACTION FOR 2019

    Audi has diesels. Mercedes-Benz has diesels. Even über-sportlich BMW sells compression-ignition automobiles in the United States. To expand globally, Cadillac obviously needs to burn oil, and not just at midnight. “Diesel is the fastest, most cost-effective way to reduce CO2 and emissions,” says de Nysschen. “I think it has to be part of our portfolio approach to meeting compliance. Cadillac also wants to be more global and less U.S.-centric, and for many markets, diesel is simply a prerequisite. We will introduce an all-new diesel engine developed specifically for Cadillac by around 2019.”

    When we ask whether that includes U.S.-market oil-burners, he succinctly asserts that, “We have a global plan.” And yes, that global plan includes both four- and six-cylinder diesel enginesl]
    Dafaq? You think Caddy drivers will enjoy filling up that stinky fuel along the semi eighteen wheelers ,huh..
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    Re: Cadillac Boss: Cadillac Diesels in 2019, Possible 911 Fighter in a Decade

    “Diesel is the fastest, most cost-effective way to reduce CO2 and emissions,” says de Nysschen. “I think it has to be part of our portfolio approach to meeting compliance./QUOTE

    hmm I'd think that electric or even hydrogen car would be more cleaner,but hey what do I know,,L
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    Johan might be the one that needs to keep-up, daddy is cutting off his allowance, time to earn your own keep.
    Earlier this month there was an article on Autoline Daily, in which it was reported how much each car manufacturer spends on R&D. BMW and MB were 1 and 2, with $3,000 per car spent. GM was in 10th place with $900 per vehicle spent on R&D. Even Ford was 50% higher at $1469 per vehicle.
    GM won't allow all their R&D budgets to go to Cadillac.
    Perhaps someone else should try to keep up!

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    Re: Cadillac Boss: Cadillac Diesels in 2019, Possible 911 Fighter in a Decade

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Show-Me View Post
    If GM is going to allow Cadillac so spend that much money on new products, they better start selling some cars, or it will be time for a new Cadillac exec who can get results without spending GM's entire R&D budget
    This is what I can't get past. I have never known GM to engage in such massive spending with no results. I am gonna be surprised if the bean counters don't reign him in. He needs to start selling cars NOW while working on a longer-term plan to regain Cadillac's lost glory. His future plans are great but acres and acres of unsold CTS and ATS models and an idled plant needs to be his immediate focus or else the rest will never happen.

    And, back to the names, I really wish if he's hell-bent on the 'me too' alpha-numeric stuff, he'd augment them with some of Cadillac's historic monikers. Way back in 1957 for instance, the cars had a sort of alpha-numeric plus a name; Series 62 Coupe Deville and Series 75 Fleetwood were two of the models that year. Therefore, why not XT8 Escalade, CT5 Seville, or CT8 Fleetwood in the future? If the names don't work internationally, then use them in the US only.

    It strikes me that what separates Cadillac from Kia is really nothing more than heritage. A Kia K900 is probably a better luxury sedan than a Cadillac XTS but the Caddy comes with years of history and an aura derived from so many great Cadillacs of the past. It's like being a member of a famous and esteemed family who once did great things. There is status conferred upon all the latest family members when they may have done nothing exceptional. With so much history and with names associated with a time when Cadillac was on top, why run from that? Why not embrace it and strive to recreate it? The name 'Cadillac CT8 Fleetwood' sounds much more glamorous and distinctive than just 'Cadillac CT8'. The later sounds like a paint code or something from Mazda and carries with it about as much cachet as K900.
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    Re: Cadillac Boss: Cadillac Diesels in 2019, Possible 911 Fighter in a Decade

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Show-Me View Post
    Earlier this month there was an article on Autoline Daily, in which it was reported how much each car manufacturer spends on R&D. BMW and MB were 1 and 2, with $3,000 per car spent. GM was in 10th place with $900 per vehicle spent on R&D. Even Ford was 50% higher at $1469 per vehicle.
    GM won't allow all their R&D budgets to go to Cadillac.
    Perhaps someone else should try to keep up!
    I wonder if this is a figure that moves around a ton, after all Ford was probably spending a good amount of money on the F-150 for obvious reasons. Also dollars per vehicle isn't the best measure of this, because brands with higher volumes end up with lower R&D per vehicle. For example if brand A sells 100,000 units a year and brand B sells 1,000,000 units a year and they spend the same amount on R&D then brand A has a higher R&D per vehicle. To make this comparison equal lets say they both sell their volume over 10 different models. Also higher priced models can obviously support higher R&D per vehicle.

    Pretty much what I am trying to say that without the explanation and data from this it really doesn't mean anything.

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