2020 Cadillac CT6-V First Drive | A new kind of V

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    2020 Cadillac CT6-V First Drive | A new kind of V

    2020 Cadillac CT6-V First Drive | A new kind of V
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    JOEL STOCKSDALE
    Aug 5th 2019





    One of the weird tidbits of car news in the past year was the change in naming for the 2020 Cadillac CT6-V. When it was first revealed, it was called V-Sport, the term previously used for Cadillacs with more moderate performance upgrades than the full-blown V cars that possessed massive power outputs and serious track-going capabilities. But then, before the car in question went on sale, Cadillac changed the name to match the equally moderately sporty CT4-V and CT5-V that officially downgraded the V name. So what should we make of this CT6-V, then? Is it a hardcore performance machine like the old V cars? Or is it what we’re expecting of the new V cars: a lightly upgraded version of the base car that isn’t particularly distinguished? As it turns out, the CT6-V sits between these two extremes to create a car that’s involving and exciting for the driver without compromising the CT6’s refinement and luxury.

    Mechanically, the CT6-V is ultimately closer to its full-bore V predecessors. The highlight is the “Blackwing” twin-turbocharged 4.2-liter V8 that makes 550 horsepower and 640 pound-feet of torque. Besides giving the engine prodigious output, Cadillac borrowed some pages from the AMG handbook: the turbocharger is nestled in between the cylinder heads, just like the current 4.0-liter AMG V8, and each engine is hand-built start to finish by one of six engine builders. The builder’s name is even featured in the engine bay. They’re special details that fit the idea of the old V cars, but the fact that a version of the same engine is in the Platinum CT6 does make its inclusion in the CT6-V seem less special, even if its output is notably less at 500 horsepower and 574 pound-feet of torque.

    Setting aside the details, the engine performs well in the real world. It’s astonishingly smooth, exactly what you want from a fast flagship. It also emits a unique exhaust note that’s both raspy and growly. You won’t mistake it for a pushrod powerplant. The power and torque provide a prominent push at all points in the rev band after a brief moment for the turbos to spool up. It’s just a shame there isn’t much of a rev band, as the engine redlines at 6,000 rpm, which is easy to hit thanks to the engine’s creamy character. It’s so low one wonders why Cadillac bothered developing a double-overhead-cam engine at all.
    Interior upgrades are subtler, with special gauge graphics and copper-accented carbon fiber trim the only things really differentiating it from a CT6 Platinum. However, it ultimately suffers from the same issues as every other CT6. As noted in our XT6 first drive, there's a certain chunkiness to Cadillac's interior design that makes it feel low-rent and uninspired compared to German rivals, or even Lincoln's ritzy new SUVs. There are also some functional issues with some of the updates made for 2020. Cadillac's new monostable shifter doesn’t feel as substantial as the previous model. The redundant control knob that replaces the CT6's old touchpad looks and feels nice (as does the accompanying volume knob), but the lack of fore, aft, left and right movements limit its functionality. The drive mode button is also difficult to access.

    While the CT6-V has some minor faults, they don’t diminish the CT6-V’s impressive driving dynamics. In one car, you get a confidence-inspiring backroad companion plus a soothing interstate eater. It’s the luxury flagship for the person that wants to always be in the driver seat, never in the back – most of its competitors are the other way around. Importantly, the CT6-V also represents a worthwhile performance upgrade over the CT6 Platinum, both in terms of its engine as well as handling capability. It even costs less at $95,890 versus $97,490, although the Platinum does counter with fancier massaging seats and Super Cruise, which aren't available on the CT6-V. Further proof that Cadillac figures CT6-V owners intend to drive themselves, then. And if they do, they'll find the brand's new high-powered flagship will let them enjoy the experience, no matter what it's called.
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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT6-V First Drive | A new kind of V

    That is one beautiful car! And I think they did this V perfectly, for this size car I don't think it would be right to put all of the spoilers, Recaro seats, and other "go fast" looking add-ons. Mature, powerful and sporty is how this looks to me!

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    I’d like to see how close it is to a M5 on the track. Even though this would better compare to a M performance 5-Series.
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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT6-V First Drive | A new kind of V

    Is the torque rating higher than was originally announced, or has Autoblog confused the torque for the hp rating of the CTS-V?

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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT6-V First Drive | A new kind of V

    Quote Originally Posted by Cobaltss_King View Post
    I’d like to see how close it is to a M5 on the track. Even though this would better compare to a M performance 5-Series.
    This car is bigger than any 5 series
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    Am I the only one who noticed the notably low redline, and what that means for the future?
    I want a car so violent that the mere thought of full throttle would cause a heart attack. That actually going wide open throttle in would result in nothing less than instant death!
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    Such a nice car. Sure you can nitpick a few things but overall the thing is awesome.

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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT6-V First Drive | A new kind of V

    Quote Originally Posted by Cobaltss_King View Post
    I’d like to see how close it is to a M5 on the track. Even though this would better compare to a M performance 5-Series.
    I'd say this competes w/ the S/7...it's only a smidge smaller than the LWB version of each while being a little larger than the SWB versions.

    Quote Originally Posted by germeezy1 View Post
    Am I the only one who noticed the notably low redline, and what that means for the future?
    C&D made mention of the lower redline, don't think it'll be that much of an issue, how often would you run this big beast to redline.
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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT6-V First Drive | A new kind of V

    Quote Originally Posted by MyImpalaSS View Post
    This car is bigger than any 5 series
    And your point. Yet there weight, handling characteristics and price are comparable. If given a chance a higher version CT6-V could definitely match if not outperform a M5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by germeezy1 View Post
    Am I the only one who noticed the notably low redline, and what that means for the future?
    No. I noticed it right off, too. I'm sure the torque is prodigious at lower RPMs giving it big-block oomph at throttle tip in, but why they chose to snuff it out at only 6k is puzzling. I can think of a few reasons but nothing that stands out given the care taken in its hand-built origins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    That is one beautiful car! And I think they did this V perfectly, for this size car I don't think it would be right to put all of the spoilers, Recaro seats, and other "go fast" looking add-ons. Mature, powerful and sporty is how this looks to me!
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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT6-V First Drive | A new kind of V

    It looks like Cadillac has done a mighty fine job with this. I'm good with them going with just V instead of V-Sport. It portrays a more refined image I think.

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    https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...c-ct6-v-drive/

    Zero to 60 mph: 3.8 sec
    Zero to 100 mph: 10.7 sec
    Standing ¼-mile: 12.0 sec
    Top speed: 155 mph

    0-100 is almost the same as the W220's S600 500 hp.

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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT6-V First Drive | A new kind of V

    Quote Originally Posted by Shloma View Post
    https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...c-ct6-v-drive/

    Zero to 60 mph: 3.8 sec
    Zero to 100 mph: 10.7 sec
    Standing ¼-mile: 12.0 sec
    Top speed: 155 mph

    0-100 is almost the same as the W220's S600 500 hp.
    That is amazing power and speed from such a large car! A second slower to 60 than the new C8!

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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT6-V First Drive | A new kind of V

    Quote Originally Posted by sdotjeezy View Post
    I'd say this competes w/ the S/7...it's only a smidge smaller than the LWB version of each while being a little larger than the SWB versions.



    C&D made mention of the lower redline, don't think it'll be that much of an issue, how often would you run this big beast to redline.
    Quote Originally Posted by rand49er View Post
    No. I noticed it right off, too. I'm sure the torque is prodigious at lower RPMs giving it big-block oomph at throttle tip in, but why they chose to snuff it out at only 6k is puzzling. I can think of a few reasons but nothing that stands out given the care taken in its hand-built origins.
    The notably low redline, and the prodigious torque output indicate that this is a middle variant of this engine designed for torque. A higher performance variant would have little to no trouble making over 650 hp to match or exceed the Germans. Make no mistake the Blackwing has the Germans , and their hot Vee engines well and truly covered.
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