2020 Cadillac CT5-V First Drive: Fighting Assumptions

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    2020 Cadillac CT5-V First Drive: Fighting Assumptions

    2020 Cadillac CT5-V First Drive: Fighting Assumptions
    Cadillac’s first redefined V pummels our expectations
    Jonny Lieberman
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    I believe I can be forgiven for my quite negative preconceived notions going into this drive. See, at our annual Car of the Year brouhaha, we drove the non-V version of the CT5. We did not like it. It was one of the first cars we culled from the field, as I recall, and one that led to almost every judge muttering a version of, "What is Cadillac thinking?"

    It's not like we're Cadillac haters, either. When the CTS—one of the cars the CT5 replaces—was new in 2014, we named it our Car of the Year. But when it came to the CT5, among the many things we dinged it for were its "overworked turbo-four engine" and "lackluster driving dynamics." Surely the upcoming V version would be the CT5's savior? Not the way Cadillac initially pitched it.

    The new CT5-V does have a 3.0-liter twin-turbo V-6 that makes 360 horsepower and 405 lb-ft of torque. Thing is, the recently deleted CTS-V had a 6.2-liter supercharged V-8 that made 640 hp and 630 lb-ft of torque. Sacre Bleu!

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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT5-V First Drive: Fighting Assumptions

    I need one of these.

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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT5-V First Drive: Fighting Assumptions

    Dare (greatly) we say Redemption?

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    And just like that... Everything i predicted.. Everything I said Cadillac was doing in regards to this roll out/marketing with trims in line.. Is confirmed. Not only that.. People here who CRIED about a vehicle, which was basically a effin base model.. Just got shut down
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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT5-V First Drive: Fighting Assumptions

    Well that certainly was a positive review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallus13 View Post
    Well that certainly was a positive review.
    And outside of reading in one review, I believe it was Car and Driver, having an issue with it being ten-speed and trying to manually shift 10 speeds on a track.. Every review I've seen is glowing
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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT5-V First Drive: Fighting Assumptions

    Sweeeeeeeet! Quite a glowing review.

    In hindsight, this makes a lot of sense and how Cadillac should have done the ATS & CTS - meaning make the non-V models softer, probably what most people want and have these affordable (ok, maybe semi-affordable) V's for the driving enthusiasts.

    This article might make me re-evaluate my choice of Premium Luxury on the CT4 and go with the CT4V, I assume they are going to follow a similar route with the CT4 and make the non-V versions softer. And this article might get me to get a non-black car, the red with the black trim looks awesome!

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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT5-V First Drive: Fighting Assumptions

    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post
    And just like that... Everything i predicted.. Everything I said Cadillac was doing in regards to this roll out/marketing with trims in line.. Is confirmed. Not only that.. People here who CRIED about a vehicle, which was basically a effin base model.. Just got shut down
    They'll have to resort to focusing on the c-pillar (which looks fine) and their confusion with the V naming strategy (which I think is simple).

    Everyone is so quick to shoot down GM vs. waiting to see the final product in all of its iterations....

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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT5-V First Drive: Fighting Assumptions

    They should've led off with this version. Pump out 3.0TT Premlux and Vs & then roll into the 2.0s once the positive reviews of the V6TT versions were out.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    They'll have to resort to focusing on the c-pillar (which looks fine) and their confusion with the V naming strategy (which I think is simple).
    Not trying to rekindle the V/Vsport conversation but can you at least admit that the confusion with the naming was avoidable and unnecessary. These cars as VSport IMO made a crap ton more sense.
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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT5-V First Drive: Fighting Assumptions

    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post
    And just like that... Everything i predicted.. Everything I said Cadillac was doing in regards to this roll out/marketing with trims in line.. Is confirmed. Not only that.. People here who CRIED about a vehicle, which was basically a effin base model.. Just got shut down
    Not sure what you are running victory laps about, however I don't come on this forum that much anymore.

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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT5-V First Drive: Fighting Assumptions

    My favorite line from the MT piece:

    "...don't act too shocked if a six-speed manual shows up for model year 2021."

    That would be cool! I've been debating picking up a used manual ATS vs a new CT4. I wonder if they'll offer a manual CT4/CT4V? Might have to stick around to see what 2021 brings. The CT5V is out of my range financially...
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadkillz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post
    And just like that... Everything i predicted.. Everything I said Cadillac was doing in regards to this roll out/marketing with trims in line.. Is confirmed. Not only that.. People here who CRIED about a vehicle, which was basically a effin base model.. Just got shut down
    Not sure what you are running victory laps about, however I don't come on this forum that much anymore.
    Well the review was off the charts. Emphatically stating that this car outperforms all 3 of its Germans competitors. Wouldn’t have expected that.


    “When you think about the cars the CT5-V is directly targeting—S4, M340i, and C43—you conclude that Cadillac's got them all beat, not just on price but also on what really matters in this segment: performance. None of those three Germans drives like this thing.“

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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT5-V First Drive: Fighting Assumptions

    Can't wait for the coupe!
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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT5-V First Drive: Fighting Assumptions

    Quote Originally Posted by sdotjeezy View Post
    They should've led off with this version. Pump out 3.0TT Premlux and Vs & then roll into the 2.0s once the positive reviews of the V6TT versions were out.



    Not trying to rekindle the V/Vsport conversation but can you at least admit that the confusion with the naming was avoidable and unnecessary. These cars as VSport IMO made a crap ton more sense.
    How about this, I will say GM did not explain themselves very well. Though I think it is obvious there will be higher level V's with the V8's we know and love, but clearly not so obvious to many others. GM should've said we will now have a range of V's - high hp to crazy high hp.

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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT5-V First Drive: Fighting Assumptions

    Quote Originally Posted by dannyg View Post
    My favorite line from the MT piece:

    "...don't act too shocked if a six-speed manual shows up for model year 2021."

    That would be cool! I've been debating picking up a used manual ATS vs a new CT4. I wonder if they'll offer a manual CT4/CT4V? Might have to stick around to see what 2021 brings. The CT5V is out of my range financially...
    I think you and I are the biggest fans of the upcoming CT4. I saw a manufacturers car CT4 running around on another GM site and it was amazing. I am probably a little too excited for the car to come out.

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