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    Camaro Designer Shrugs Off Styling Controversy

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    Former General Motors design director Tom Peters is confident his team did the best job possible when forming the sixth-generation Chevrolet Camaro's exterior design.

    The Camaro has been losing ground against the Ford Mustang and Dodge Challenger in recent years. Some critics have blamed the Camaro's exterior design for slumping sales.

    The controversy peaked when the Camaro was refreshed in 2019, adding a massive grille (pictured) that some found objectionable. The company quickly changed course, however, and hastily readied another refresh for 2020 that adopted the more well-received front styling of an SS show car created for SEMA.

    Speaking to Muscle Cars and Trucks, Peters said he would not change a single thing in hindsight, despite lackluster sales.

    "We wanted to add more sculpture, more flavor, and more unique shape," he said, referring to the sixth-generation model.

    Camaro sales slid to 24,516 units in the first half of the year, while the Mustang dropped to 38,542 deliveries and the Challenger fell by 23 percent to 28,668 units. As the numbers show, all three pony cars are experiencing waning demand so far this year.
    Pony Car: an affordable, compact, highly styled car with a sporty or performance-oriented image and an available V8.

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    Re: Camaro Designer Shrugs Off Styling Controversy

    Typical GM attitude. The idiots will buy whatever we sell them ! Well, this time it backfired. Nice interior, amazing engineering, ****ty exterior. And if you don't turn your head to look back at your car in the parking lot at least once, you bought the wrong car.

    "Former General Motors design director Tom Peters is confident his team did the best job possible when forming the sixth-generation Chevrolet Camaro's exterior design."
    Tom Peters - if this is your best, then you are not the right man for the job.

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    Re: Camaro Designer Shrugs Off Styling Controversy

    The '16-'18s weren't bad looking, they were actually pretty freaking nice, unusable...but nice. The '19 SS, I don't care what anyone thinks...they looked flat out bad, so bad...that it was corrected in one MY. You never see a refresh after one year unless something went horribly wrong and in the case of the '19 SS yeah something went horribly wrong:



    He can fabricate whatever reason he wants for the emergency refresh...I ain't buying it.
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    Re: Camaro Designer Shrugs Off Styling Controversy

    One thing I'd keep and double down on is that lovely Camry "grille." Or whatever they call it. Catfish.
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    Re: Camaro Designer Shrugs Off Styling Controversy

    He can fabricate anything he wants--he's the former design director not current.

    Anyway, from the Camaro to the Mustang and Challenger, these Gen X'er models aged themselves out (Gen X'ers requirements and balance sheet changed and the styling for these cars haven't drastically changed for some time now--except for Mustang, but, even that is getting long in the tooth) and priced themselves out so that Millennials can no longer purchase something that for them is a marginal decision and for Baby Boomers too far out for SOME of them (just purchase a Corvette instead)...

    Between this guy's "former" status and the receding wave of this market, it really just doesn't matter...
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    Re: Camaro Designer Shrugs Off Styling Controversy

    Tom Peters failed. Completely.
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    Re: Camaro Designer Shrugs Off Styling Controversy

    Better thread title: "Camaro Designer Shrugs Off Sales".

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    Re: Camaro Designer Shrugs Off Styling Controversy

    It's worth remembering that Mr. Peters was also responsible for the very successful 5th Generation car.
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    Re: Camaro Designer Shrugs Off Styling Controversy

    Personally think the new Camaro is the best looking pony car available. It's the only one that turns my head every time I see one. I do think that refresh looked awful where they placed the Chevy emblem, good that they fixed it quickly though.

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    Re: Camaro Designer Shrugs Off Styling Controversy

    I may be in the minority but I feel the '16-'18 styling is boldly aggressive. I ENJOY my pair every single day!!

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    Re: Camaro Designer Shrugs Off Styling Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by megeebee View Post
    It's worth remembering that Mr. Peters was also responsible for the very successful 5th Generation car.
    Ehhh.... Sangyup Lee was the true inspiration of the 5th gen and Peters just took that concept and made it a production vehicle.

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    Re: Camaro Designer Shrugs Off Styling Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by sdotjeezy View Post
    The '16-'18s weren't bad looking, they were actually pretty freaking nice, unusable...but nice. The '19 SS, I don't care what anyone thinks...they looked flat out bad, so bad...that it was corrected in one MY. You never see a refresh after one year unless something went horribly wrong and in the case of the '19 SS yeah something went horribly wrong:



    He can fabricate whatever reason he wants for the emergency refresh...I ain't buying it.
    The Manta Ray "mouth flaps" are a ridiculous look. But in general I don't dislike the styling, I dislike the packaging. If you want bigger sales, the car has to be more useful to more people. Honestly, as nice as it might be, not everybody can afford the 700 hp, $70,000 version. That's what the Corvette is for.

    But the back seat really can't be used at all, and the trunk is entirely too small. On top of that, the trunk opening makes it hard to use what little trunk space there is!

    I've heard "them" say that they designed the trunk to accommodate a set of golf clubs. But I have been to the Chevy dealer with my clubs. No, they do NOT fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainDan View Post
    The Manta Ray "mouth flaps" are a ridiculous look.
    Or as I call them, Jowl Flaps. Loose skin on an ugly bulldog.

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    Re: Camaro Designer Shrugs Off Styling Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by bballr4567 View Post
    Ehhh.... Sangyup Lee was the true inspiration of the 5th gen and Peters just took that concept and made it a production vehicle.
    Mr. Lee was the head designer for that car. Mr. Peters was his boss. Same for the current car. Mr. Peters was not lead designer on it either.
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    Re: Camaro Designer Shrugs Off Styling Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by bballr4567 View Post
    Ehhh.... Sangyup Lee was the true inspiration of the 5th gen and Peters just took that concept and made it a production vehicle.
    in all seriousness you can thank Michael Bay for the Gen 5s success
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