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    What SUV Should I Buy? MotorTrend's Frank Markus Says The 2019 Chevrolet Blazer

    I’ll take the Camaro of SUVs, please.
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    By: Frank Markus


    We're a DINC couple of a certain (semi-centennial) age, and I'm an engineer who loves cars and gadgetry. My sense of style absolutely precludes ownership of the vast majority of SUVs and crossovers purely because they look too ugly or plain. I'm impatient by nature and prone to running slightly late, so performance is pretty important. We own a lake place, and although we're not boaters, I sometimes need to hitch up a rented trailer for runs to the dump or hauling oversized items around (a 3,500-pound rating gets my jobs done). My Michigan climate—political and weather-wise—make all-wheel drive and a Detroit Three label attractive. Plug all these factors into my Decid-O-Meter 9000, along with a hard price ceiling of $50,000 (dictated by my income and fiscal responsibility levels), and after some grinding and whirring, the slip of paper it spits out reads: 2019 Chevrolet Blazer AWD Premier.

    My inner geek kinda wants a hybrid—more so I can play with the gas-mileage optimizing user interface than for the actual money- or climate-savings it promises—but the gorgeous new 2020 Explorer Limited Hybrid, at $55,570 to start with AWD, is too far out of my price range, and it's bigger than I need. We're promised that the forthcoming 2020 Lincoln Corsair will include a hybrid variant, but when, at what price, and will it tow 3,500 pounds? Other SUVs that generally met the criteria include the 2019 Lincoln Nautilus, but its zoomy 2.7-liter twin-turbo busts my budget, and frankly the Chevy's sportier appearance appeals.

    Another of my absolute must-haves is an interior that's neither all-black nor gray at all, and the Blazer Premier's Maple Sugar and black offering features piping, stitching, grain, and gloss that belie its Bow Tie badging. Sadly, this color scheme can't be had with my first exterior color choice (Sunlit Bronze), but it pairs fine with Oakwood Metallic. The Premier trim's equipment is pretty comprehensive, but I'm adding $2,165 worth of "Driver Confidence" (wireless charging for my iPhone 8, full adaptive cruise and forward collision mitigation, and Intellibeam lighting, among other things) and another $185 for the cargo compartment shade and net. No thanks on the top-heavy sunroofs, ride-killing 21-inch rims, or pricey entertainment systems.

    For $49,145 ($47,145 after local cash allowances) I end up with a ute that—at 6.1 seconds to 60 mph and 14.7 seconds through the quarter mile at 95.5 mph—is a wee bit quicker and better handling than my beloved Hemi-powered 2018 Dodge Durango 4 R/T long-termer, and it's 4/3 mpg city/highway more efficient to boot. It's also a shade quicker if slightly less dynamically adroit or efficient than its chief rival, the racy Ford Edge ST. I'm basically expecting to feel like I'm piloting a taller, easier to see out of, vastly more useful V-6 Camaro—especially every time I go to dial the temperature up or down by spinning the central vent surrounds (so cool). Oh, and I'll be buying and holding for six-digit mileage accumulation—as that's the best way to get your money's worth.
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    LOL at all the FORD fans in this thread thinking they got a one up. This is the Yukon Denali and trust me it's going to blow away the Navigator. Escalade is gunning for RR/Bentley level of interiors and beyond. I've talked to someone about this on another site that confirmed it Navigator isn't even being bench-marked at Cadillac too low for them.
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    Re: What SUV Should I Buy? MotorTrend's Frank Markus Says The 2019 Chevrolet Blazer

    The Blazer is a great looking CUV. It's a head-turner, that's for sure.

    If it were priced about $5,000 less than it currently is, had the 3.6L V6 standard, and WAS BUILT IN AMERICA WHERE IT SHOULD BE, it would be arguably be the best CUV on the market today.

    It isn't too late to fix those flaws, GM.
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    LOL at all the FORD fans in this thread thinking they got a one up. This is the Yukon Denali and trust me it's going to blow away the Navigator. Escalade is gunning for RR/Bentley level of interiors and beyond. I've talked to someone about this on another site that confirmed it Navigator isn't even being bench-marked at Cadillac too low for them.
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    Re: What SUV Should I Buy? MotorTrend's Frank Markus Says The 2019 Chevrolet Blazer

    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy4Life View Post
    The Blazer is a great looking CUV. It's a head-turner, that's for sure.

    If it were priced about $5,000 less than it currently is, had the 3.6L V6 standard, and WAS BUILT IN AMERICA WHERE IT SHOULD BE, it would be arguably be the best CUV on the market today.

    It isn't too late to fix those flaws, GM.
    Think about what you just said...you want it to be $5000 cheaper...but more expensive to build. I agree that it is overpriced, but I have ZERO problem w/ it being built in Mexico.

    I also think its a good looking CUV, especially in the Premier trim w/ the 21" wheels. Tires are going to be a B--- to replace tho, should've gone w/ the cheaper 22s.
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    Re: What SUV Should I Buy? MotorTrend's Frank Markus Says The 2019 Chevrolet Blazer

    Just get a Soul turbo and hire someone to tow your stuff around with the 23,000+ grand you save. And AWD is like way like ya know like overrated, as Occasional Cortex has told me several times.
    A set of good winter tires and wheels will set you back way under $2000.

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    And you really don't need a 6 second zip-to-60 to get to your destination on time. Just mash your foot down harder.
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    Re: What SUV Should I Buy? MotorTrend's Frank Markus Says The 2019 Chevrolet Blazer

    Made in Mexico - no thanks.

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    Re: What SUV Should I Buy? MotorTrend's Frank Markus Says The 2019 Chevrolet Blazer

    Quote Originally Posted by sdotjeezy View Post
    Think about what you just said...you want it to be $5000 cheaper...but more expensive to build. I agree that it is overpriced, but I have ZERO problem w/ it being built in Mexico.

    I also think its a good looking CUV, especially in the Premier trim w/ the 21" wheels. Tires are going to be a B--- to replace tho, should've gone w/ the cheaper 22s.
    Yes, you are right. It would cut into their margins.

    But let's face it: The Blazer is priced, literally right on top of the Traverse, and comes standard with the ****box 2.5L I4. To get the 3.6L V6, it would cost MORE to get the Blazer than the Traverse. That is insane.

    If Chevy (GM) turns a profit on 10,000+ Traverse sold every month, then they can easily do the same with a hypothetical $5,000 less made-in-America Blazer.

    There is zero reason why the Blazer costs what it does. Made in Mexico is just an even bigger slap in the face at this point IMO.
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    LOL at all the FORD fans in this thread thinking they got a one up. This is the Yukon Denali and trust me it's going to blow away the Navigator. Escalade is gunning for RR/Bentley level of interiors and beyond. I've talked to someone about this on another site that confirmed it Navigator isn't even being bench-marked at Cadillac too low for them.
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    Re: What SUV Should I Buy? MotorTrend's Frank Markus Says The 2019 Chevrolet Blazer

    Quote Originally Posted by Neanderthal View Post

    And you really don't need a 6 second zip-to-60 to get to your destination on time. Just mash your foot down harder.
    That sounds like something a car hatin' milluhnial would say.

    I'll take 8 cylinders of 'murican freedom any day over some commie hamstermobile.
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    Re: What SUV Should I Buy? MotorTrend's Frank Markus Says The 2019 Chevrolet Blazer

    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy4Life View Post
    Yes, you are right. It would cut into their margins.

    But let's face it: The Blazer is priced, literally right on top of the Traverse, and comes standard with the ****box 2.5L I4. To get the 3.6L V6, it would cost MORE to get the Blazer than the Traverse. That is insane.

    If Chevy (GM) turns a profit on 10,000+ Traverse sold every month, then they can easily do the same with a hypothetical $5,000 less made-in-America Blazer.

    There is zero reason why the Blazer costs what it does. Made in Mexico is just an even bigger slap in the face at this point IMO.
    Either cut the price $5k to drive sales and conquests in a highly competitive market since you're saving on labor costs, or build the car in the US. Really baffling of GM's economics with the Blazer vs. Traverse.
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    Re: What SUV Should I Buy? MotorTrend's Frank Markus Says The 2019 Chevrolet Blazer

    Quote Originally Posted by Neanderthal View Post
    Just get a Soul turbo and hire someone to tow your stuff around with the 23,000+ grand you save. And AWD is like way like ya know like overrated, as Occasional Cortex has told me several times.
    A set of good winter tires and wheels will set you back way under $2000.

    If you'd like to pay me a 10% commission for this valuable information, I'll give you a PO Box number or a couple of dead drops.

    And you really don't need a 6 second zip-to-60 to get to your destination on time. Just mash your foot down harder.
    As an owner of a current Soul Turbo, I agree. Last year I thought a Blazer RS was going to replace our 2017 Soul. I love the look of the new Blazer, thought the RS model with the 21" wheels was one of the best looking vehicles I have seen...and even was happy with the performance once they were tested. But the price? I know it was going to be a lot more than the Soul, but just to get an RS with the 21" wheels everyone i have seen has been $50,000 or more.

    As far as perfomance in the Soul..C and D just tested a FWD Kona (that the soul is based on) with about the same curb weight as the 2020 Soul turbo...the same transmission...and the same engine that cuts out a bit earlier so it gets 20 less HP than the Soul..and in that Kona they got 0-60 of 6.0 and a quarter mile of 14.7....with 20 less hp. So the performance numbers are going to be similar. Or course, very few people are going to cross shop the Soul (or any other mini-suv) with the Blazer. If the price of the RS with 21" wheels would have been $5000 less....as others have stated...we probably would have a Blazer now instead of a new Soul.

    I still love the look of the Blazer RS...but that price...

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    Re: What SUV Should I Buy? MotorTrend's Frank Markus Says The 2019 Chevrolet Blazer

    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy4Life View Post
    Yes, you are right. It would cut into their margins.

    But let's face it: The Blazer is priced, literally right on top of the Traverse, and comes standard with the ****box 2.5L I4. To get the 3.6L V6, it would cost MORE to get the Blazer than the Traverse. That is insane.

    If Chevy (GM) turns a profit on 10,000+ Traverse sold every month, then they can easily do the same with a hypothetical $5,000 less made-in-America Blazer.

    There is zero reason why the Blazer costs what it does. Made in Mexico is just an even bigger slap in the face at this point IMO.
    The pricing blows on the Blazer, but my thought process is that the inflated price is supposed to subsidize or soften the blow of the vehicles still made in the US with the higher labor costs.

    I get it...some unions suck, but you can't break the unions by feeding them more work. Close the plant, shift production outside union controlled regions. Let the lost jobs from lost in country production shift to the logistics sector to import said autos. Take the profits from lower production costs...re-invest in in country production, and finally freeze out the unions when you do come back. That's how you kill the UAW.

    Quote Originally Posted by mjd1001 View Post
    As an owner of a current Soul Turbo, I agree. Last year I thought a Blazer RS was going to replace our 2017 Soul. I love the look of the new Blazer, thought the RS model with the 21" wheels was one of the best looking vehicles I have seen...and even was happy with the performance once they were tested. But the price? I know it was going to be a lot more than the Soul, but just to get an RS with the 21" wheels everyone i have seen has been $50,000 or more.

    As far as perfomance in the Soul..C and D just tested a FWD Kona (that the soul is based on) with about the same curb weight as the 2020 Soul turbo...the same transmission...and the same engine that cuts out a bit earlier so it gets 20 less HP than the Soul..and in that Kona they got 0-60 of 6.0 and a quarter mile of 14.7....with 20 less hp. So the performance numbers are going to be similar. Or course, very few people are going to cross shop the Soul (or any other mini-suv) with the Blazer. If the price of the RS with 21" wheels would have been $5000 less....as others have stated...we probably would have a Blazer now instead of a new Soul.

    I still love the look of the Blazer RS...but that price...
    Wait until this time next year, you'll be able to get that same RS for $38-39K
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    Re: What SUV Should I Buy? MotorTrend's Frank Markus Says The 2019 Chevrolet Blazer

    ^ not bad, but this contradicts with what WallStreet wants and they pull the strings. The losers here are the common US/Canadian workers and all the small businesses around them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadian.bacon View Post
    ^ not bad, but this contradicts with what WallStreet wants and they pull the strings. The losers here are the common US/Canadian workers and all the small businesses around them.
    Well, at first WS will get what they want, higher profits from out of country production. They'll be some losers among common North Americans, but keep in mind that some of those job losses can be recuperated in other sectors w/ the shift from production to logistics - One Man's loss is another's gain. After the UAW is killed off through attrition, non-unionized labor costs would be more palatable @ the re-invested plants...that and the inevitable tax breaks granted to the Automakers when they do decide to move production back to the US...another win for WS.
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    Re: What SUV Should I Buy? MotorTrend's Frank Markus Says The 2019 Chevrolet Blazer

    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy4Life View Post
    I’ll take the Camaro of SUVs, please.
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    By: Frank Markus


    We're a DINC couple of a certain (semi-centennial) age, and I'm an engineer who loves cars and gadgetry. My sense of style absolutely precludes ownership of the vast majority of SUVs and crossovers purely because they look too ugly or plain. I'm impatient by nature and prone to running slightly late, so performance is pretty important. We own a lake place, and although we're not boaters, I sometimes need to hitch up a rented trailer for runs to the dump or hauling oversized items around (a 3,500-pound rating gets my jobs done). My Michigan climate—political and weather-wise—make all-wheel drive and a Detroit Three label attractive. Plug all these factors into my Decid-O-Meter 9000, along with a hard price ceiling of $50,000 (dictated by my income and fiscal responsibility levels), and after some grinding and whirring, the slip of paper it spits out reads: 2019 Chevrolet Blazer AWD Premier.

    My inner geek kinda wants a hybrid—more so I can play with the gas-mileage optimizing user interface than for the actual money- or climate-savings it promises—but the gorgeous new 2020 Explorer Limited Hybrid, at $55,570 to start with AWD, is too far out of my price range, and it's bigger than I need. We're promised that the forthcoming 2020 Lincoln Corsair will include a hybrid variant, but when, at what price, and will it tow 3,500 pounds? Other SUVs that generally met the criteria include the 2019 Lincoln Nautilus, but its zoomy 2.7-liter twin-turbo busts my budget, and frankly the Chevy's sportier appearance appeals.

    Another of my absolute must-haves is an interior that's neither all-black nor gray at all, and the Blazer Premier's Maple Sugar and black offering features piping, stitching, grain, and gloss that belie its Bow Tie badging. Sadly, this color scheme can't be had with my first exterior color choice (Sunlit Bronze), but it pairs fine with Oakwood Metallic. The Premier trim's equipment is pretty comprehensive, but I'm adding $2,165 worth of "Driver Confidence" (wireless charging for my iPhone 8, full adaptive cruise and forward collision mitigation, and Intellibeam lighting, among other things) and another $185 for the cargo compartment shade and net. No thanks on the top-heavy sunroofs, ride-killing 21-inch rims, or pricey entertainment systems.

    For $49,145 ($47,145 after local cash allowances) I end up with a ute that—at 6.1 seconds to 60 mph and 14.7 seconds through the quarter mile at 95.5 mph—is a wee bit quicker and better handling than my beloved Hemi-powered 2018 Dodge Durango 4 R/T long-termer, and it's 4/3 mpg city/highway more efficient to boot. It's also a shade quicker if slightly less dynamically adroit or efficient than its chief rival, the racy Ford Edge ST. I'm basically expecting to feel like I'm piloting a taller, easier to see out of, vastly more useful V-6 Camaro—especially every time I go to dial the temperature up or down by spinning the central vent surrounds (so cool). Oh, and I'll be buying and holding for six-digit mileage accumulation—as that's the best way to get your money's worth.
    All I can think of now when I see a picture of the Blazer at that angle is the real person commercial guy when he says, why does the freaking hood look bent up, it looks like a Nissan rouge that got into a accident.lol

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    Re: What SUV Should I Buy? MotorTrend's Frank Markus Says The 2019 Chevrolet Blazer

    Quote Originally Posted by mjd1001 View Post
    As an owner of a current Soul Turbo, I agree. Last year I thought a Blazer RS was going to replace our 2017 Soul. I love the look of the new Blazer, thought the RS model with the 21" wheels was one of the best looking vehicles I have seen...and even was happy with the performance once they were tested. But the price? I know it was going to be a lot more than the Soul, but just to get an RS with the 21" wheels everyone i have seen has been $50,000 or more.

    As far as perfomance in the Soul..C and D just tested a FWD Kona (that the soul is based on) with about the same curb weight as the 2020 Soul turbo...the same transmission...and the same engine that cuts out a bit earlier so it gets 20 less HP than the Soul..and in that Kona they got 0-60 of 6.0 and a quarter mile of 14.7....with 20 less hp. So the performance numbers are going to be similar. Or course, very few people are going to cross shop the Soul (or any other mini-suv) with the Blazer. If the price of the RS with 21" wheels would have been $5000 less....as others have stated...we probably would have a Blazer now instead of a new Soul.

    I still love the look of the Blazer RS...but that price...
    No worries, mjd! GM will be slapping 8,000-10,000 rebates on those Blazers by July 4. Or Christmas, anyway. It's what they do, rebate they must! They cannot help themselves.

    The Kona uses the 175 HP variant of the 1.6t (it's used in the Optima EX, formerly the Optima LX Eco IIRC) and numerous other heavier-than-Soul cars, and judging from numerous tests it's an => version vs the 201 HP. Don't ask me why, sometimes life works out that way. Probably lower TQ and HP peaks. So to me, the 175 HP version is preferable. Kona, yes we can!

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    Likes: Potent turbo four, quick-shifting automatic transmission, lithe handling with a well-balanced ride.
    Dislikes: Transmission stumbles when driving at low speeds, numb steering, turbo lag.

    Two powertrains are available with the Kona: SE and SEL models come with a 147-hp four-cylinder and a six-speed automatic transmission. This setup could use a bit of caffeine; in our testing, an all-wheel-drive SEL model required 9.2 seconds to reach 60 mph. Limited and Ultimate models are powered by the considerably peppier 175-hp turbocharged four-cylinder paired to a seven-speed dual-clutch automatic. With the turbo four, the Kona scampered from zero to 60 mph in 6.6 seconds, just 0.1 second behind the rapid Kia Soul Exclaim. The seven-speed dual-clutch automatic shifts quickly and smoothly once you're rolling, but it stumbles at low speed in parking lots and in bumper-to-bumper traffic, engaging and disengaging first gear hesitantly until the driver offers more throttle input.

    The Kona delivers agile handling and a surprising amount of fun. This doesn't translate to a rough ride over choppy roads; in fact, the suspension offers quite the opposite, damping out bumps and providing occupants with a cabin that is well isolated from pavement imperfections. The steering is perhaps the Kona's biggest dynamic downfall: it's an uncommunicative helm that requires frequent corrections when cruising the highway despite its heavy-weighted feel.

    Fuel Economy and Real-World MPG
    In this class of fuel-sipping mini SUVs, the Kona's EPA ratings are good but only average among its rivals. Despite this, the Kona impressed us during our real-world testing, besting much of its competition. With the turbocharged engine under the hood, the Kona delivered 32 mpg in our 200-mile highway fuel-economy test; we managed 33 mpg with the base four-cylinder.

    https://www.caranddriver.com/hyundai/kona

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    TEST RESULTS
    Zero to 60 mph: 6.0 sec
    Zero to 100 mph: 16.7 sec
    Zero to 120 mph: 29.0 sec
    Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 6.5 sec
    Top gear, 30–50 mph: 3.2 sec
    Top gear, 50–70 mph: 4.5 sec
    Standing ¼-mile: 14.7 sec @ 95 mph
    Top speed (drag limited, C/D est): 135 mph
    Braking, 70–0 mph: 167 ft
    Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.92 g
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