Report: Next Gen Chevy Cruze Coming In 2023; Will Stay In Lordstown

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    Report: Next Gen Chevy Cruze Coming In 2023; Will Stay In Lordstown

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    August 22, 2017

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    GM won’t reveal plans for Lordstown complex
    Published: 8/6/17 @ Vindy.com

    We would like to believe that no news is good news when it comes to the future of General Motors’ Lordstown assembly complex, but with each passing month our anxiety level rises.

    Let there be no doubt that the GM decision-makers in Detroit know what’s in store for the home of the Chevrolet Cruze, one of the company’s best-selling passenger cars. It should also come as no surprise that they’re holding their cards close to the vest.

    Corporations do not turn on a dime when it comes to investments and the launching of new products. Thus, our belief that plans for the Lordstown plant are in the hopper.

    We can only hope it’s positive news for the Mahoning Valley. Our note of caution stems from the fact that sales of the Cruze have been soft for some time, despite the fact that the compact car has been rated high for quality, value and driver satisfaction.

    Last week, GM released sales figures for July that showed a 25 percent drop in sales of the Lordstown-built Cruze from July 2016. There were 10,218 sedans sold last month, compared with 13,723 in July of last year.

    In addition, there were 2,060 Cruze hatchbacks sold in July. The cars, which are built in Mexico, weren’t on the market in July 2016.

    But here’s the reason for our growing concern about the future of the Lordstown plant: GM has reacted to the drop in Cruze sales by eliminating the third shift and halting production of the car for several weeks.



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    Re: Report: Next Gen Chevy Cruze Coming In 2023; Will Stay In Lordstown

    Some good news for the Lordstown production plant...but this is just a report, and most certainly, the information contained within has not been confirmed by General Motors. 2023 is a long way away...

    But one can hope.


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    Re: Report: Next Gen Chevy Cruze Coming In 2023; Will Stay In Lordstown

    The "Good News" is; Lordstown keeps the Cruze.

    The "Bad News" is; Lordstown keeps the Cruze.
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    Re: Report: Next Gen Chevy Cruze Coming In 2023; Will Stay In Lordstown

    I think GM learned their lesson on small cars and the need to have them waiting in the wings. When gas spiked in the past, GM was caught with its pants down with lots of big suv's and trucks and no small cars that were comparable to what was offered by the imports. If gas spikes again, GM will have both ends of the spectrum covered. Sales might be lower for now, but with the Cruze being sold internationally its still worth keeping around and it helps with meeting CAFE requirements.

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    Re: Report: Next Gen Chevy Cruze Coming In 2023; Will Stay In Lordstown

    That's a long way away. Hopefully GM doesn't let the Cruze go stale in the interim, but I can see them not wanting to put money into the Cruze as it is a declining segment. One thing we do know is Honda isn't going to let the Civic go stale....

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    Re: Report: Next Gen Chevy Cruze Coming In 2023; Will Stay In Lordstown

    One word: AWD. An AWD Cruze would be a good Impreza competitor. 1.5T from Malibu. I'd buy one to replace my old Subaru wagon. As long as it was a manual...no automatic with Stop/Start, sorry GM.
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    Re: Report: Next Gen Chevy Cruze Coming In 2023; Will Stay In Lordstown

    WOW! The Cruze will be 8 years old in 2023... Sure hope they do lot's of updates in the interim...

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    Re: Report: Next Gen Chevy Cruze Coming In 2023; Will Stay In Lordstown

    The timing of Cruze III may well be timed in with the end of Astra-K production at Opel/Vauxhall, which includes any Buick/Holden versions, as any Astra successor will be built on an existing PSA platform - thus ending all Opel/Vauxhall association with GM's Delta/D--- platforms.

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    Re: Report: Next Gen Chevy Cruze Coming In 2023; Will Stay In Lordstown

    Cannot believe an 8 yr cycle on a car that got absolutely hammered by the new Civic right out of the gate. In the early development stages of this gen, Reuss reportedly had a boner over the new design.
    So much for that. Nice car but nothing groundbreaking in design or content.
    Then comes the hatch but few know about it. Then there is no sport variant...RS is badges, ground effects and wheels. No one at GM taking this car seriously.
    Might as well cancel it and walk away. Put development $$$ in a better Trax or the upcoming Tahoe. Regurgitating the same approach they took with this one is a losing proposition.
    Even a much better offering may be too late by 2023.

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    Re: Report: Next Gen Chevy Cruze Coming In 2023; Will Stay In Lordstown

    Quote Originally Posted by criticalmass View Post
    Cannot believe an 8 yr cycle on a car that got absolutely hammered by the new Civic right out of the gate. In the early development stages of this gen, Reuss reportedly had a boner over the new design.
    So much for that. Nice car but nothing groundbreaking in design or content.
    Then comes the hatch but few know about it. Then there is no sport variant...RS is badges, ground effects and wheels. No one at GM taking this car seriously.
    Might as well cancel it and walk away. Put development $$$ in a better Trax or the upcoming Tahoe. Regurgitating the same approach they took with this one is a losing proposition.
    Even a much better offering may be too late by 2023.
    Too many mediocre products have come to pass on Reuss's watch. Enough to question his value.

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    Re: Report: Next Gen Chevy Cruze Coming In 2023; Will Stay In Lordstown

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    The "Good News" is; Lordstown keeps the Cruze.

    The "Bad News" is; Lordstown keeps the Cruze.
    In a choke-hold to the death... Union relations have improved, but... no ute = no future.

    That plant has never been able to anything but mass-produce. The culture shock needed to make it a viable business in this century will kill them. They won't make it, without a ton of corp help.

    They need to have far more flexibility. Anything FWD or AWD should be able to assembled. If not, fire a bunch of management people. You are 30 years behind, you deserve ... jail, frankly. Where the f___ have you been, and why are they paying you, exactly???? How could you do this, and continue to do this, to Lordstown, OH? I have been there plenty. Better people than in GMTC.

    It's time to realize the economics. Put a damn Ute in there, or count on reduced capacity. GM's failure to plan is going to hurt Lordstown.

    I spent a long time in GM IE, but I work elsewhere now. UAW, I have leverage points for you... I know this game. Not putting them on the web...

    I understand about making money. I also see a designed-in fall-guy in NE Ohio from 250 miles away, and it doesn't smell right. I respect the hell out of those guys at Lordstown. Shame on you, GM!!!

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    Re: Report: Next Gen Chevy Cruze Coming In 2023; Will Stay In Lordstown

    Quote Originally Posted by criticalmass View Post
    Cannot believe an 8 yr cycle on a car that got absolutely hammered by the new Civic right out of the gate. In the early development stages of this gen, Reuss reportedly had a boner over the new design.
    So much for that. Nice car but nothing groundbreaking in design or content.
    Then comes the hatch but few know about it. Then there is no sport variant...RS is badges, ground effects and wheels. No one at GM taking this car seriously.
    Might as well cancel it and walk away. Put development $$$ in a better Trax or the upcoming Tahoe. Regurgitating the same approach they took with this one is a losing proposition.
    Even a much better offering may be too late by 2023.
    Hammered out of the gate??? Where were you? Osaka?

    Tone down the subjective.. The Civic has sucked for about 20 years, since the 96 refresh. Dude.

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    Re: Report: Next Gen Chevy Cruze Coming In 2023; Will Stay In Lordstown

    2023 is quite a ways off. Just don't do with it like they treated the Verano and not update or change anything. Keep the little guy fresh and it will continue to move. More power, sport models and AWD would also help.

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    Re: Report: Next Gen Chevy Cruze Coming In 2023; Will Stay In Lordstown

    8 years? GM is just not interested in being the best. Sad that it's come to this

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    Re: Report: Next Gen Chevy Cruze Coming In 2023; Will Stay In Lordstown

    Quote Originally Posted by Chassis Guy View Post
    Hammered out of the gate??? Where were you? Osaka?

    Tone down the subjective.. The Civic has sucked for about 20 years, since the 96 refresh. Dude.
    Wishful thinking on your part. The last generation was mediocre, but the current and most all previous generations handily beat anything GM could offer the market.

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