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    Re: New Corvette: GM Moves Engine, Stirs Revolt

    Quote Originally Posted by BORG View Post
    I could certainly see GM misunderstanding the customer in an effort to do something THEY want to do, but it's not like GM hasn't considered their options on moving the Corvette forward. This could be Chevy responding to GT which would be something of a corporate vanity project that completely ignores their customers, especially if the price is GT-like. But I think their goal is just to make the Corvette relevant again while moving it back toward the exotic and less toward the muscle-car. That may not be the right direction for the Chevy customer, but risk is part of the game.
    If putting down a faster lap time at VIR then something like the Mclaren 720S doesn't make a car relevant then I don't want a relevant car.

    Sure with 60% of the weight over the rear the car will have a better 0-60 but that is muscle car stuff and I pass on that kind of stuff.

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    Re: New Corvette: GM Moves Engine, Stirs Revolt

    Hmmm. None of the quotes worked. I''l try to wing it.

    30-50s. Four door 'vette, ya know, like the T-bird?

    Rear engine? Corvair. "Get Ralph on speed dial!"

    As it is, 98.6% of the Corvettes I see on the road are piloted by Oscar Foxtrots and are piddling along. Like today, some Ancient One was piddling down the right lane in town going about 25. Normal traffic runs about 45.
    At the light a Mustang pulled up next to him and they had a little pretend drag race.

    Burned in my memory banks is the old coot-driven Corvette driving a STAY ALIVE!--DRIVE 55! down the middle lane of a 3-lane Pennsylvania interstate, some years back. Other traffic was whizzing by on either side at 75+. These cars, like anything pricey, are image. Like BMWs.

    Now, make no mistake, there are some old goats who can dust almost any whippersnapper, a number of old auto execs come to mind but their names don't. They drove fast all their lives, they were good, and they still drove fast.
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    Re: New Corvette: GM Moves Engine, Stirs Revolt

    Tony Stark, drove an Axura NSX as well, it's about product placement. Both Acura and Audi have paid Big Money for product placement in the MARVEL VERSE. I am sure Tony, would have driven a ZR-1, a Cadillac CT-6 V V Sport or the Escala Prototype, if GM had paid for the product placement and provided fleet vehicles as Audi and Acura have done.

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    Re: New Corvette: GM Moves Engine, Stirs Revolt

    Quote Originally Posted by VS Ute 5Litre View Post
    You may be right but it doesnt change the fact that when you have your target audience getting older by the minute you need to change something

    Kids put posters of McLarens and Ferraris on their walls

    Tony Stark drives an Audi

    You get my drift here right?

    It's about perception
    Tony Stark, drove an Axura NSX as well, it's about product placement. Both Acura and Audi have paid Big Money for product placement in the MARVEL VERSE. I am sure Tony, would have driven a ZR-1, a Cadillac CT-6 V V Sport or the Escala Prototype, if GM had paid for the product placement and provided fleet vehicles as Audi and Acura have done.

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    Re: New Corvette: GM Moves Engine, Stirs Revolt

    You guys

    A ford guy already getting all passive aggressively negative about it....

    Anyway, it looks fantastic from what I see. If they price stays reasonably close to C7 pricing then Chevy has a hit (as much as a niche machine like this can) and it opens up massive space for Camaro to get some oxygen for front engine rwd fans.
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    Re: New Corvette: GM Moves Engine, Stirs Revolt

    Engine in the front, RWD is the perfect formula. This should have been a Cadillac

    Cadillacs are bespoke, Corvettes are for the broke

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    Re: New Corvette: GM Moves Engine, Stirs Revolt

    It's a nice Ferrari.
    But it isn't a Corvette

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    Re: New Corvette: GM Moves Engine, Stirs Revolt

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Evans View Post
    Engine in the front, RWD is the perfect formula. This should have been a Cadillac

    Cadillacs are bespoke, Corvettes are for the broke
    Quote Originally Posted by steve333 View Post
    It's a nice Ferrari.
    But it isn't a Corvette
    Ya gotta love it, the haters on one thread and all the rest on the other thread.

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    Re: New Corvette: GM Moves Engine, Stirs Revolt

    Quote Originally Posted by jpd80 View Post
    It seems like the more extreme GM makes its vehicles,
    the fewer the buyers who are actually interested..

    From another thread...


    GM has this wonderful engine that would be an absolute delight in the
    new C8 Corvette and fit the premise of a Euro Exotic fighter...
    but they can't even put a Blackwing engine in a Blackwing V

    Don't get me wrong, C8 is a brilliant effort, the thing I don't trust
    has and always will be GM's pathetic marketing of all things performance.
    What is the obsession with the Blackwing? The engine was designed around minimizing the engine size for 4.2 liter displacement. It's small bore and long stroke means you can't get any more displacement out of it. Where do you go from there? Not to mention the LT4 already beats the Blackwing by 100 horsepower, with equal torque and is likely lighter and cheaper.

    Instead of carrying over an engine that can't grow, why not develop something that isn't based around a single displacement?

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    Re: New Corvette: GM Moves Engine, Stirs Revolt

    Quote Originally Posted by roadkillz View Post
    The success of this is going to depend on generation X having the desire and money to buy the new car, this is a huge gamble which as pointed out by GM suspension engineer wasn't required. However GM seeing Ford having people line up to pay $400,000+ for Ford GTs likely caused this, it came down to GM exces who made the decision on this one.

    The problem here is that the interior is going to have less room and for those who daily drive their Corvettes (which is a shockingly high number) it won't be as good for that. It will get the initial bump however as sales drop cost per car will go up and this will end up being a $100,000+ dollar car in base form unless then can figure out how to sell 30,000+ units a year. I honestly don't think that they will be able to pull off such a high volume and I see this becoming a model that sells a few thousand a year at a $100,000+ price tag starting. Though that will likely be ok for GM, they are likely willing to accept such a change as margin should go up and they will be able to charge a premium for the car.
    LOL. Off by only $40,000.

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    Re: New Corvette: GM Moves Engine, Stirs Revolt

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltastic View Post
    You guys

    A ford guy already getting all passive aggressively negative about it....
    I don't think you understand what that term means.
    I have said nothing bad about the car itself,
    my concerns start and end with GM's marketing.

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    Re: New Corvette: GM Moves Engine, Stirs Revolt

    Quote Originally Posted by jpd80 View Post
    I don't think you understand what that term means.
    I have said nothing bad about the car itself,
    my concerns start and end with GM's marketing.
    I've seen you in action....

    *edit
    Any chance just to try to shade the news...
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    Re: New Corvette: GM Moves Engine, Stirs Revolt

    So with a base price starting just under $60K, there will be no excuses
    why this new Corvette won't be an out of the park sales home run, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltastic View Post
    I've seen you in action....

    *edit
    Any chance just to try to shade the news...
    I posted the whole autonews article on the C8 reveal in the other thread.
    and I'm stirring the daylights out of my Ford friends over at BON
    How's that for passive aggressive
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    Re: New Corvette: GM Moves Engine, Stirs Revolt

    As a Corvette lover and former owner ('69 350/350 4-spd roadster back in the day), going to this design was inevitable. I'm dying to know dimensions/weight/performance numbers. At starting under $60k, they better rev up that assembly line to full tilt.
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    Re: New Corvette: GM Moves Engine, Stirs Revolt

    Quote Originally Posted by rand49er View Post
    As a Corvette lover and former owner ('69 350/350 4-spd roadster back in the day), going to this design was inevitable. I'm dying to know dimensions/weight/performance numbers. At starting under $60k, they better rev up that assembly line to full tilt.
    Dimensions and weight (3366lb) are at the media page...but all we know so far about performance is "under 3 sec"...

    https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us...-corvette.html

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