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    Re: Chevy Volt broke monthly sales record in August as GM hails EV's momentum

    Quote Originally Posted by 63GrandSport001 View Post
    Honestly the Cadillac ELR should be priced at around $60,000 and as such should be ok with smaller volumes. Though the combined sales for the Volt and ELR can easily hit 4,000 units a month.
    The ELR is a small two-door coupe, which I think is going to limit the market quite a bit. 500/mo could be a good number, unless they add a sedan.

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    Re: Chevy Volt broke monthly sales record in August as GM hails EV's momentum

    Quote Originally Posted by 63GrandSport001 View Post
    This is one of those things where people should be able to understand a concept however most people do not.

    When you have such a new tech trying to break through just like with cars when they first came out you have a period of time where everyone is trying to gain traction. Compare how many car makers existed 80 years ago compared to today. When the Prius first came out it was technology that was heavily subsidized by the Japanese Government. They were pricey and lacked profits for Toyota, now when people think hybrid the think Prius and its doing well even though other hybrids are not.

    People are weary when it comes to electric cars, even more so with all of the negative press that the Volt has gotten over the past few years.
    I think GM trying to push the VOLT as an electric and NOT an extended range Hybrid or ELECTRIC primary HYBRID has hurt as I know people that believe after 50/ 90 K the car is useless like the volt where as a Prius gets filled up and is good to go
    and second I believe the ELR is the LAST car caddy AND voltec need right now and a large LUX sedan/coupe on voltec (XTS/Omega) cross

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    Re: Chevy Volt broke monthly sales record in August as GM hails EV's momentum

    What are the current tax incentives on the volt anyway?

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    Re: Chevy Volt broke monthly sales record in August as GM hails EV's momentum

    At 20to 30 grand. .......practicality makes a large portion of buying decision. At 40 large passion becomes a larger factor in the buying decision....

    At least in my opinion...in this economy....I believe after the techies buy their volts each month there begins the need for economics to play a role so if I remember correctly the lease deals are subsidized where the out of pocket costs are tax tags license and $300 to $310 a month which is a killer deal.


    Hope this helps



    Btw. The ELR should invoke enough passionn to drive segment sales to expected levels for a 60 grand two door.


    Four door coupe would have been just as sexy and sold in higher volumes but maybe that's for the next generation

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    Re: Chevy Volt broke monthly sales record in August as GM hails EV's momentum

    ever since it became clear that the Leaf wasnt performing as well as Volt on a consistent basis the media stopped comparing sales of the two. No one talks about Leaf sales projections but I guarantee you its coming nowhere near those projections. When the leaf first came out people were so certain it was a no brainer vs the Volt, it was a pure electric car and it was thousands cheaper. Turns out that the extended range of the Volt was more desirable than the pundits predicted. On top of that the Leaf's price jumped and chevy made the Volt slightly cheaper.

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    Re: Chevy Volt broke monthly sales record in August as GM hails EV's momentum

    A weather guy here in Connecticut bought one and here is the story from the station's website http://dennishouse.wordpress.com/201...w-of-the-volt/

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    Re: Chevy Volt broke monthly sales record in August as GM hails EV's momentum

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    Sorry - Having a hard time keeping up with all the Volt Propaganda...................





    $7,500 on the hood, +$4.00 gas and we're knocking the cover off the ball ........................ My, how far we've lowered the bar.


    Very rough math, but if GM sells 32K in the next 4 months (8,000/month) GM will hit its 45,000 target?
    The "target" was stupid from the start because success of the Volt is largely dependent on gas prices and state level incentives. Gas prices were moderating for much of the year which lowers interest in hybrids and electrics. What matters is how the Volt is doing vs similar cars, i.e. the Leaf. Neither car is selling as well as the silly projections that were offered by their respective manufacturers 2 years ago. But the Volt is doing a lot better than the Nissan.

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    Re: Chevy Volt broke monthly sales record in August as GM hails EV's momentum

    Quote Originally Posted by JBsZ06 View Post
    At 20to 30 grand. .......practicality makes a large portion of buying decision. At 40 large passion becomes a larger factor in the buying decision....

    At least in my opinion...in this economy....I believe after the techies buy their volts each month there begins the need for economics to play a role so if I remember correctly the lease deals are subsidized where the out of pocket costs are tax tags license and $300 to $310 a month which is a killer deal.


    Hope this helps



    Btw. The ELR should invoke enough passionn to drive segment sales to expected levels for a 60 grand two door.


    Four door coupe would have been just as sexy and sold in higher volumes but maybe that's for the next generation
    All depends on who is elected. The tax credit is dead with Romney, and that will set Voltec back until gas prices exceed at least $5 a gallon. The tax credits aren't needed forever, but they are needed for a few more years until the battery tech gets better. I think of them as a jump start. It's inevitable, but they really accelerate it. ELR at 60K with the credits is really around 50. That's possible. If its really 60? I don't think there's a market at that price.

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    Re: Chevy Volt broke monthly sales record in August as GM hails EV's momentum

    Pow!

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    Re: Chevy Volt broke monthly sales record in August as GM hails EV's momentum

    Quote Originally Posted by motorman View Post
    read this,maybe GM is losing enough $$$ so they stopped the bleeding for a month.


    EVs: THE ECONOMIC LEMON
    As we reported yesterday, the Obama Administration finalized its ruling on a new CAFE standard of 54.5 miles per gallon by 2025. And yesterday, Fiat-Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne said they are struggling with the choices they have to make to meet those standards by 2017. Marchionne is especially critical of electric-vehicle mandates. Speaking to members of the North American Car of The Year jury, he said, “I’m guaranteed to lose money on every-zero emission vehicle.” Referring to the electric version of the Fiat 500 they’re going to come out with, Marchionne added, “I’ll be the proud owner of an economic lemon.” As if to put an exclamation point on this, as we reported yesterday GM is idling production of the Volt for four weeks, and Chinese EV maker BYD just reported that its profits plunged 94 percent so far this year.
    I don't think the Volt was expected to purn a profit, at least in this generation. But GM (for once) is looking to the future - in 10-15 years the Volt's drivetrain will probably be the standard for all cars and GM will be ahead of the game (again, for once), having worked out the bugs and continually improved/refined it. And remember, the on-board generator (i.e. thecurrent gasoline internal combustion engine) can be replaced with anything (diesel, CNG, hydrogen - if that ever becomes economicaly available) to be even more efficient.

    Toyota lost money on every 1st generation Prius, but fortunately for them they stuck with it, and 15 years later make money on each Prius they sell (and they sell considerably more now).

    Unfortunately, IMHO, we Americans seemed to be too focused on immediate results (in all areas of life - home, cars, savings, government, etc) rather than keeping one eye on the present and one eye on the future.
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    Re: Chevy Volt broke monthly sales record in August as GM hails EV's momentum

    Quote Originally Posted by 1487 View Post
    ever since it became clear that the Leaf wasnt performing as well as Volt on a consistent basis the media stopped comparing sales of the two. No one talks about Leaf sales projections but I guarantee you its coming nowhere near those projections. When the leaf first came out people were so certain it was a no brainer vs the Volt, it was a pure electric car and it was thousands cheaper. Turns out that the extended range of the Volt was more desirable than the pundits predicted. On top of that the Leaf's price jumped and chevy made the Volt slightly cheaper.
    Clearly GM wasn't given enough credit out of the gate on the VOLT. What kills me is the OBVIOUS long term advantages the VOLT always possessed over the Leaf from the beginning. Besides, compared to the Leaf, the VOLT is a luxury car.

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    Re: Chevy Volt broke monthly sales record in August as GM hails EV's momentum

    This is great news! I'd so buy one if i had a place to plug it in. I've sat in a couple and they are beautiful cars...excellent build quality too.
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    Re: Chevy Volt broke monthly sales record in August as GM hails EV's momentum

    Quote Originally Posted by 1487 View Post
    The "target" was stupid from the start because success of the Volt is largely dependent on gas prices and state level incentives.....................
    So it is about the calculator!?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1487 View Post
    .......the Volt is doing a lot better than the Nissan.
    And that is all that matters!?

    Quote Originally Posted by obriend View Post
    I don't think the Volt was expected to turn a profit, at least in this generation.
    Coke Can said it was going to be profitable by now..........
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    Re: Chevy Volt broke monthly sales record in August as GM hails EV's momentum

    Around here, you can get a new Volt for $0 down and $249/month...just goes to show if you make it cheap enough (or make the deal cheap enough), people will buy it. Why do you think Toyota sells so many Corollas and Camrys each month?
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    Re: Chevy Volt broke monthly sales record in August as GM hails EV's momentum

    Quote Originally Posted by TORRED1 View Post
    Of course the range should not be an issue, if she is driving it to work, the dealership, then I would assume that they have a fast charger on site and she can recharge it to return home. An ideal situtation.
    Really this is their entire reason for buying. Running to town and back which is about a 20 mile one way trip. They have an old Toyota 4 Runner which is their "distance" vehicle.
    And she got the same discount as anyone can get walking in off the street, if they are a good negotiator.
    The dealer has 3, 220 volt charging stations set up in their lot. All out front where everyone can see. Good thinking....
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