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    Re: Chevy Blazer Review: "How could something so cheap-feeling cost so much?"

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    A honda sales man lecturing Chevrolet on interiors, lol, the noise,plastics galore, poor infographics and insert radio here approach, plus, non existant telematics..

    Honda is a joke.. Yeah.. I know they last for ever...
    Please sweetie I detailed GM cars for three years of my life. I have no reason to explain myself.

    FWIW Passport sold 3k last month... how did the Blazer do?
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    Re: Chevy Blazer Review: "How could something so cheap-feeling cost so much?"

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    So a Honda fanboi is more reliable than a GM fan? Honda fans aren't biased?

    I'm no Honda fanboi whatsoever (clearly as you see I drive a Dodge). Honda has it's own sets of problems but interiors with exception of some late 2000's models have never been a problem.
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    Re: Chevy Blazer Review: "How could something so cheap-feeling cost so much?"

    I think the Blazer's confused identity hurts it. Think about it...

    -Athletic Camaro Interior
    -Asian Looking Exterior
    -Front-Wheel Drive
    -Huge gap in power between the base and upgraded powertrain
    -Built in Mexico

    And to top it all off, it has the name of a BOF classic rugged SUV.


    The Blazer tries to be the jack of all trades, and in the end, it's the master of none.

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    Re: Chevy Blazer Review: "How could something so cheap-feeling cost so much?"

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    Its not lying, its using their own internal standards instead of generally accepted industry standards, this is rampant in the industry, that is for example why , GM, Ford and Chrysler went to SAE certified towing standards for advertised max tow rating, due to previous wild claims...
    Same thing happens in Engines.
    Yeah, they lie so much about their engine HP that they down-rated the engine in the new Supra. Oh wait.......

    The Blazer is over-priced and not a good value to the customer. Not impressed with this or the new PU's. Pull it together GM!!
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    Re: Chevy Blazer Review: "How could something so cheap-feeling cost so much?"

    I am not a fan of the Blazer interior but most others are just as bad. I was in a much more expensive Explorer and it was just as bad.

    Chevy missed it as they got the outside and suspension right but failed inside.

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    Re: Chevy Blazer Review: "How could something so cheap-feeling cost so much?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Evo69 View Post
    Pfft... this so called 'review' comes across as a hit piece. I've seen a lot of reviews of the Blazer, many of them were rightly critical in regards to some aspects of the interior, but at least they also showed the Blazer in a mostly positive light. This reviewer though is absolutely shambolic, a charlatan posing an an auto journalist going way overboard in his criticisms. Oh wait... its DAN NEIL!

    As I read that article, the words hit piece came immediately to my mind, looking at his word choices it is pretty clear that was the goal of it. I have never even sat in a new Blazer, nor got within arms reach of one. So some of what he says may be legitimate, however his method of taking written artistic license in what is subjective in the best of light anyway and turning it into a smear campaign devalues any valid points he may have.
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    Re: Chevy Blazer Review: "How could something so cheap-feeling cost so much?"

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    compression ratio, higher, better FE, and more power..

    So Toyota at 14 ratio makes only 3 more horses than Chevrolet at 11 ratio makes 5 more torques, same displacement..
    Something does not add up.
    ( Nope on the first in Red as a given - see 1960s Chrysler V8s versus contemporary's for education - )

    On the second....Sure it does.


    ( And yes, as you others have pointed out, lack of SAE Certification is a factor here in terms of the claimed outputs - )





    Assuming Toyota is referring to Static C/R.....

    Then, apparently......

    Toyota, has chosen as part of their Combustion System 'Package', to employ a very high 'static' compression that very, very, often but not always.....is effectively reduced by other design factors, more frequently, and by larger amount than 'normal range' - when running ie when measured dynamically.

    In other words, their basket of real world dynamic C / R values is /are nowhere near as different in a 'positve',higher number sense as one might think given the static comparisons - and btw, like everything else, there are other trade offs involved with this as well - that reverse at least some of gain. More than likely, all of the gain and more - some of the time.


    Dynamic Compression Ratios are what truly matter - and you have to also appreciate each and every Prime Mover has a range of values with this; depending on all the usual such as RPM, Load, Throttle Position or equivalent value, Atmospheric Temp and Pressure etc etc etc etc.

    In all fairness to Toyota though, there is a little more going on here that appears to actually be strong - having to do with eh, certain Combustion Modes they can apparently operate with - no matter how infrequently and or briefly.


    Going the other way with it, it will be interesting to see how this one ( or really this 'approach' ) runs out long term...... a wag is that - that is going to be more than somewhat challenging down the road - for at least enough to 'matter'.


    They must have some interesting Limp Modes....... for even certain kinds of minor, run of the mill sensor failures.....

    Oversimplified, this is the reverse or better said, weighted more often, more heavily the other way..... of the 'ole sorta SOP concerning static versus dynamic.
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    Re: Chevy Blazer Review: "How could something so cheap-feeling cost so much?"

    A bullsh!! article by a GM hater since as far back as I can remember.... and of course.. the peanut gallery picks up the drivel and runs with it as truth. The interior within the Blazer is actually not cheap at all.. I find it ironic considering Neil loves to give Toyotas top notches on all things including the last Camry I had as a rental which had plastics so cheap and sharp on the edges I literally cut myself so bad I thought I was gonna have to go to the emergency room for stitches..

    This vehicle gets a bad rap because its made in Mexico, which is silly and telling considering if it were made in Canada no one would be mad... and it has the name of a model long gone (currently avail in a 4door (Tahoe))

    Side note.. I always love to see the THANKS crew who loooove bad reviews on GM products. Its so predictable for a minute I thought I was psychic.
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    Re: Chevy Blazer Review: "How could something so cheap-feeling cost so much?"

    Oh man. The drivel is strong in that.

    OF COURSE PEOPLE CARE ITS MADE IN MEXICO. GM deserves all the damn hate they get for that choice. All of it. If people buy it despite that fact so be it but there will people who don't buy it because of that. Imagine if it was made in Canada or the US? People wouldn't even think twice about country of origin. GM giving people a reason to NOT buy rather than a reason TO buy. Where have we heard that before?

    Blazer is a solid vehicle but in a GM that has said they're not going after a niche, it sure seems like the Blazer is attacking a niche. Oh well.

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    Re: Chevy Blazer Review: "How could something so cheap-feeling cost so much?"

    Quote Originally Posted by jzchev28 View Post
    The Blazer RS is frigging sweet, and really to beat a dead horse it's biggest downfall is price.
    That is a really big horse!


    Quote Originally Posted by Al465 View Post
    First of all, what does Wall Street know about cars?
    Little, but who said they did? That isn't their job; money & profits are their specialty...........


    Quote Originally Posted by sdotjeezy View Post
    IMO, the Blazer's pricing wouldn't be all that bad if it had a 3rd row. I'd hit it if I could get a 7 passenger Blazer RS for $43K.
    That would be called Trailblazer; $60,000?


    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    Lazy shifting, blame congress, and the FE mafia at the department of emissions.
    No, blame GM, others can figure it out............


    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    A honda salesman lecturing Chevrolet on interiors, lol, the noise, plastics galore, poor infographics and insert radio here approach, plus, non existent telematics..

    Honda is a joke.. Yeah.. I know they last for ever...
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    So a Honda fanboi is more reliable than a GM fan? Honda fans aren't biased?
    Reading comprehension?................

    The way I read it, a shopper at the Honda Dealer, WAS at the Chevy Dealer, and wasn't impressed with the Blazer.


    Quote Originally Posted by DequindreToo View Post
    I think the Blazer's confused identity hurts it. Think about it...

    -Athletic Camaro Interior
    -Asian Looking Exterior
    -Front-Wheel Drive
    -Huge gap in power between the base and upgraded powertrain
    -Built in Mexico

    And to top it all off, it has the name of a BOF classic rugged SUV.


    The Blazer tries to be the jack of all trades, and in the end, it's the master of none.
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    Re: Chevy Blazer Review: "How could something so cheap-feeling cost so much?"

    Quote Originally Posted by bballr4567 View Post
    Oh man. The drivel is strong in that.

    OF COURSE PEOPLE CARE ITS MADE IN MEXICO. GM deserves all the damn hate they get for that choice. All of it. If people buy it despite that fact so be it but there will people who don't buy it because of that. Imagine if it was made in Canada or the US? People wouldn't even think twice about country of origin. GM giving people a reason to NOT buy rather than a reason TO buy. Where have we heard that before?

    Blazer is a solid vehicle but in a GM that has said they're not going after a niche, it sure seems like the Blazer is attacking a niche. Oh well.
    First.. give me a reason why its OK to build in Canada and not Mexico? Both are a part of the same trade deal? Last I checked.. neither country is a part of the United States... So... Tell me.... What is the difference in Mexico building the Blazer or Canada? OHHHHHHH!!!!! I remember
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    Re: Chevy Blazer Review: "How could something so cheap-feeling cost so much?"

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    First.. give me a reason why its OK to build in Canada and not Mexico? Both are a part of the same trade deal? Last I checked.. neither country is a part of the United States... So... Tell me.... What is the difference in Mexico building the Blazer or Canada? OHHHHHHH!!!!! I remember
    I think you have a problem.

    First world vs third world. Huge difference.

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    Re: Chevy Blazer Review: "How could something so cheap-feeling cost so much?"

    When i took the training on the Blazer the GM attitude was clear screw the blazer heritage lets model the interior after the camaro and a quote from the training class " GM has built a perfectly adequate suv for the current market" Thats the new GM attitude.

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    Re: Chevy Blazer Review: "How could something so cheap-feeling cost so much?"

    Quote Originally Posted by bballr4567 View Post
    I think you have a problem.

    First world vs third world. Huge difference.

    Peace.
    OK.. on that then. What ever the negative reason. It seems to me the humanitarian in U would want a third world economy bordering the United States to get some decent paying jobs.. if for no other reason than that would make for less border crossings.. which only causes population increases and reducing jobs avail right here in this country.
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