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    Re: Barra Isnít Ruling Out Corvette Sub-Brand

    Hmm, Corvette Cutlass Calais
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    Re: Barra Isnít Ruling Out Corvette Sub-Brand

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    Hmm, Corvette Cutlass Calais
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    Re: Barra Isnít Ruling Out Corvette Sub-Brand

    Oh stop it. This will never happen.

    The Stingray,Grand Sport,Z06 and ZR1 are the most of a Corvette sub brand GM will ever provide.

    And much like others have said; GM doesn't have a clue into how to even define and market such a brand. Just look at what GM has done with GMChevy,Buopelevyick,and Chevrollac.

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    Re: Barra Isnít Ruling Out Corvette Sub-Brand

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    Re: Barra Isnít Ruling Out Corvette Sub-Brand

    One of the reasons we might be getting a sub-brand out of Mustang is because of electrification which is a tricky boundary to cross. Electrification is key to performance going forward, but how do you make that transition while preserving the majority customer? Adding models to the nameplate might be neccessary. The only problem with the Mach-E is that it really wasn't birthed as a Mustang compliment, they are just using Mustang style and branding to motivate its team and customers to get onboard a product that was quite boring.

    I think the sub-brand actually worth paying attention to is Bronco. We are getting two Broncos at the same time to reach different customers. It's easy to see this as Ford's effort to take on Jeep and it's clearly designed as a sub-brand from the start.

    Corvette seems like a hard one to sub-brand outside of the exotic car scope they are in. Mustang is a little more malleable perhaps, you can see a 4-Door Mustang without too much controversy and it's something people have speculated about for years. And now that we have a Mustang EV Crossover that actually looks pretty good, it seems to work for some people. And in the case of Ford, it's their only car brand remaining so the strength of the brand could contribute to other car models, especially as we move into electrification. Making Mustang or Corvette the EV flagships isn't such a bad idea.
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    Re: Barra Isnít Ruling Out Corvette Sub-Brand

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    What parts do the family of Porsche vehicles share with the 911?
    They don't need to share parts per se, but I feel like there should be more of a connection than splitting the taillights in three and calling it a day.

    For example, the 911 and the SUVs have 6-cylineder engines, they all have available AWD. They have a physical family resemblance inside and out. The 911 and the Boxster/Cayman both have the engine behind the driver and they're both clearly sports cars. They also share a physical family resemblance.

    The renderings of the cars sdotjeezy posted earlier I think could absolutely form a "family" with the C8. I see the connection between the products.

    With the Mustang and the "Mustang," I find the disconnect between the models to be way too wide. The whole thing strikes me as condescending and disingenuous.
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    Re: Barra Isnít Ruling Out Corvette Sub-Brand

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    What parts do the family of Porsche vehicles share with the 911?
    I know this isn't a physical part...but the other Porsche vehicles share the essence of the 911


    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    I believe I heard Hackett let it slip out on the radio a few weeks ago, that it was going to be a Fusion.
    What I got from the Mach E story was that it was on track to be Ford's Bolt...albeit a larger Bolt but a true economy class EV nonetheless. He intervened and had the designers inject some Mustang into the DNA of the car.

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    Re: Barra Isnít Ruling Out Corvette Sub-Brand

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    What parts do the family of Porsche vehicles share with the 911?
    What vehicles in the Porsche family share a name with the 911?

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    Re: Barra Isnít Ruling Out Corvette Sub-Brand

    Quote Originally Posted by Murrow View Post
    They don't need to share parts per se, but I feel like there should be more of a connection than splitting the taillights in three and calling it a day.

    For example, the 911 and the SUVs have 6-cylineder engines, they all have available AWD. They have a physical family resemblance inside and out. The 911 and the Boxster/Cayman both have the engine behind the driver and they're both clearly sports cars. They also share a physical family resemblance.

    The renderings of the cars sdotjeezy posted earlier I think could absolutely form a "family" with the C8. I see the connection between the products.

    With the Mustang and the "Mustang," I find the disconnect between the models to be way too wide. The whole thing strikes me as condescending and disingenuous.
    It's not, you're just a troglodyte. Sorry.

    A brand is composed of values, and so long as the "Mustang" is affordable, has high performance, and is visibly relatable to its sibling(s), there's not much else you can do. What else do you want? Was the 928 less of a Porsche than the Panamera, Taycan, Macan, or Cayenne?

    Would a plug-in Mustang make you feel better about the whole thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by sdotjeezy View Post
    I know this isn't a physical part...but the other Porsche vehicles share the essence of the 911
    As does the Mach-E the Mustang.

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDiablo View Post
    What vehicles in the Porsche family share a name with the 911?
    All of the vehicles that are sold as Porsches.

    Mustang has become the de facto "brand" for the cars, not Ford.

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    Re: Barra Isnít Ruling Out Corvette Sub-Brand

    Quote Originally Posted by Neanderthal View Post
    That would require the GM braintrust be =/> Porsche smart people. I'm not holding my breath on that. Mary sounds more like the speaker of the house every day.

    But I HAVE come up with a name. Yes, there's Vette II (like Chevy II, very clever no?), Vettevelle, Vettabu, Vettpala, Vettrado, Vettinox...hey, Saturn's already been used and ruined, how about Uranus?
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    Re: Barra Isnít Ruling Out Corvette Sub-Brand

    Quote Originally Posted by Ambalanche View Post
    How about GM get Cadillac right before thinking about ANY sub brand!!
    I agree 100%! Design proper Cadillac sedans instead of the mess they call the CT4 and CT5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambalanche View Post
    How about GM get Cadillac right before thinking about ANY sub brand!!
    I agree 100%! Design proper Cadillac sedans instead of the mess they call the CT4 and CT5.
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    Re: Barra Isnít Ruling Out Corvette Sub-Brand

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    What a horrific idea...................









    E=sdotjeezy;7207265]In before the obligatory "Porsche is a brand, Corvette is a model" posts...you're right, all they're going to do is speculate and study, do nothing and let the market pass them by. The C7 - C8 transition was the perfect time to get this whole thing off the ground...instead they wasted the opportunity and are now "reportedly" ;-) selling the C8 at a loss to keep the price in line with where the C7 was (TBH I don't believe that for a second, I think the "at a loss" is a cheap salesman tactic).



    Too late for a Corvette EV CUV, Ford already beat them to the punch w/ the Mach E....that'll be a straight up copycat move if they did that.

    Taking an additional step, a Corvette lineup would look like the below:

    C7 (grand Tourer) facelifted C7
    4D Sedan based off facelifted C7:


    CUV:


    and of course the C8

    These would then be sold out of Cadillac dealerships to 1. give high end buyers a high end experience and 2. Give Camaro the position as top dog on the Chevy showroom and allow for expansion of that brand without the "Corvette ceiling".[/QUOTE]
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    Re: Barra Isnít Ruling Out Corvette Sub-Brand

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Not Corvette Sub Brand waste of Time, Chevrolet only has the Camaro and Corvette, just build both those above and call them something under Chevy brand and be done with it.****
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    Re: Barra Isnít Ruling Out Corvette Sub-Brand

    Quote Originally Posted by PHAT-JAY View Post
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Not Corvette Sub Brand waste of Time, Chevrolet only has the Camaro and Corvette, just build both those above and call them something under Chevy brand and be done with it.****
    The Chevrolet you loved as a brand is pretty much dead....its now a Toyota-eque mainstream brand that sells trucks and appliances. Their sedans are dead/dying and their CUVs are blah. If it weren't for their 3 halo products, Camaro, Corvette and Tahoeburb, they'd really have nothing. Also, keep in mind there is a bit of separation already of Corvette from the rest of Chevy, If i'm not mistaken dealerships have to be Corvette certified in order to sell the vette, there's no other vehicle in their lineup that requires a separate level of requirements to service...I mean dealers don't have to be Malibu or Impala certified...do they?
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