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    2021 Chevrolet Tahoe First Drive - Bigger, bolder, better

    2021 Chevrolet Tahoe First Drive | Bigger, bolder, better
    The Tahoe is a real contender as the best big SUV
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    The 2021 Chevrolet Tahoe is the first full redesign of Chevy’s full-size SUV since the 2015 model year, and it’s a major one. It has a completely new independent rear suspension, a larger body, a new diesel engine option and many new features. The major overhaul is a bid to stay competitive against its archrival, the Ford Expedition, which received its own full redesign a couple years ago. To see how the changes have affected Chevy’s big SUV, we spent some time in a pre-production Z71 example and found it to be a well-packaged SUV with a greatly improved interior, but the driving experience is a bit of a mixed-bag.

    The Tahoe has a few different engine and suspension options available. The standard engine is a 5.3-liter V8 making 355 horsepower and 383 pound-feet of torque, and at the moment, it’s the only engine available on all but the High Country trim level. That gets a 6.2-liter V8 making 420 hp and 460 lb-ft of torque. That's the same output as the previous model's optional 6.2, but both engines now come with the Dynamic Fuel Management cylinder deactivation that can shut off any cylinder in any order the computer wants as opposed to simply switching off a set bank of cylinders. Both engines also now come with a 10-speed automatic transmission.

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    Re: 2021 Chevrolet Tahoe First Drive - Bigger, bolder, better

    More than a solid review.

    The IRS investment will pay off, and then some. The Expedition is a really solid, attractive product, and GM needed to bring a better game to the playing field. It looks like they delivered.

    Surprising that the fuel economy didn't improve much at all, but hopefully there is some sort of mild-hybridization (or other solution) on the horizon. After all, GM makes massive money on these products. While gas is cheap and plentiful now, all it would take is a protracted spike for these products to suddenly seem over-indulgent and excessive for most consumers. No one has a crystal ball, but if energy markets become volatile, it would be better to insulate against such a scenario.

    Quote Originally Posted by autoblog.com
    There's little to dissuade from the civility inside the radically remade interior. The rounded shape of the main dash is elegant and has a nice little cowl over the top for added visual interest. On higher trims, the dash is wrapped in nice simulated leather. It's all a sharp contrast to the lumpy, dreary Silverado interior, and indeed GM should be credited with giving the Tahoe (and GMC Yukon) a unique interior design from its pickup siblings. Ford just pressed copy and paste from F-150 to Expedition.
    The last comment on Ford's F-150/Expedition interior being virtually the same is true --- for now anyway. If the rumors are true, than the "lumpy, dreary" Silverado/Sierra interior is going to be soon replaced by the Tahoe/Suburban/Yukon interior.

    So that praise to GM is obviously nice, but it may be short lived.
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    Re: 2021 Chevrolet Tahoe First Drive - Bigger, bolder, better

    As my family and its lifestyle allow only these kinds of vehicles in my own car market, the third row in both Suburban and Tahoe have become too small for my larger kids. The upgrade of the third row is well regarded here and they can't wait to replace our Suburban with a new one--when we are ready
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    Re: 2021 Chevrolet Tahoe First Drive - Bigger, bolder, better

    Quote Originally Posted by nadepalma View Post
    More than a solid review.

    The IRS investment will pay off, and then some. The Expedition is a really solid, attractive product, and GM needed to bring a better game to the playing field. It looks like they delivered.

    Surprising that the fuel economy didn't improve much at all, but hopefully there is some sort of mild-hybridization (or other solution) on the horizon. After all, GM makes massive money on these products. While gas is cheap and plentiful now, all it would take is a protracted spike for these products to suddenly seem over-indulgent and excessive for most consumers. No one has a crystal ball, but if energy markets become volatile, it would be better to insulate against such a scenario.


    The last comment on Ford's F-150/Expedition interior being virtually the same is true --- for now anyway. If the rumors are true, than the "lumpy, dreary" Silverado/Sierra interior is going to be soon replaced by the Tahoe/Suburban/Yukon interior.

    So that praise to GM is obviously nice, but it may be short lived.
    I assume the increased length and IRS and other luxuries added a decent amount of weight that took away the benefits of what I assume is a lighter frame and 10 speed efficiencies and cylinder deactivation. Still, I was expecting to see an improvement.

    Overall a sweet looking ride. That Z71 looks awesome.

    But damn - base price of $55k!

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    Re: 2021 Chevrolet Tahoe First Drive - Bigger, bolder, better

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    I assume the increased length and IRS and other luxuries added a decent amount of weight that took away the benefits of what I assume is a lighter frame and 10 speed efficiencies and cylinder deactivation. Still, I was expecting to see an improvement.

    Overall a sweet looking ride. That Z71 looks awesome.

    But damn - base price of $55k!
    I think you're right on all counts. Plus, any additional "connectivity" always brings along with it additional weight (wiring, sensors, tc). If their electronic architecture saw any advancements, it's possible it may have also been a contributing (though, likely limited) factor.

    In terms of pricing, you ain't kidding! I saw one at a local Chevy dealership and stopped. It was a "High Country" example and the sticker was $80K!!
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    Re: 2021 Chevrolet Tahoe First Drive - Bigger, bolder, better

    Quote Originally Posted by nadepalma View Post
    I think you're right on all counts. Plus, any additional "connectivity" always brings along with it additional weight (wiring, sensors, tc). If their electronic architecture saw any advancements, it's possible it may have also been a contributing (though, likely limited) factor.

    In terms of pricing, you ain't kidding! I saw one at a local Chevy dealership and stopped. It was a "High Country" example and the sticker was $80K!!
    Well, as the article points out, the base tahoe is slightly more than the expedition base and the loaded tahoe is slightly less than the loaded expedition. Sounds like pricing is about where you'd expect.

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    Re: 2021 Chevrolet Tahoe First Drive - Bigger, bolder, better

    People that want Tahoes simply will not cross shop. There is no replacing that V8 for some people.

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    Re: 2021 Chevrolet Tahoe First Drive - Bigger, bolder, better

    These have taken a big step forward. They have fixed all of my major complaints. I like the design, better packaging, nicer interiors and air suspension. I just don't like the pricing at the top end, where I would buy something else.

    Quote Originally Posted by nadepalma View Post
    Surprising that the fuel economy didn't improve much at all, but hopefully there is some sort of mild-hybridization (or other solution) on the horizon. After all, GM makes massive money on these products.
    Larger + IRS = Heavier. Not much of a surprise, really.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    But damn - base price of $55k!
    They haven't been "cheap" for a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by nadepalma View Post
    In terms of pricing, you ain't kidding! I saw one at a local Chevy dealership and stopped. It was a "High Country" example and the sticker was $80K!!
    And it has about a $50/60K interior. I quite like the new Tahoe & 'Burban, but not at $80k. That's silly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vagon11 View Post
    Well, as the article points out, the base tahoe is slightly more than the expedition base and the loaded tahoe is slightly less than the loaded expedition. Sounds like pricing is about where you'd expect.
    Remember, Ford doesn't have a Yukon Denali, so they jack up the Expy Platinum pricing to bridge the gap. Really makes even less sense with GM, especially considering Denali has a nicer interior.
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    Re: 2021 Chevrolet Tahoe First Drive - Bigger, bolder, better

    im VERY disappointed to hear there are shakes and shudders in the body. hopefully thats the panoramic models not the hardtops. was hoping for a stiffer structure than our '18. BTW 22s are not a good fit for a tahoe. too much negative impact on ride quality, acceleration, braking and around town mpg.

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    Re: 2021 Chevrolet Tahoe First Drive - Bigger, bolder, better

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    As my family and its lifestyle allow only these kinds of vehicles in my own car market, the third row in both Suburban and Tahoe have become too small for my larger kids. The upgrade of the third row is well regarded here and they can't wait to replace our Suburban with a new one--when we are ready
    yes. past tahoes have not really had a lot of room inside and the third row has been a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    People that want Tahoes simply will not cross shop. There is no replacing that V8 for some people.
    i think you are correct in your assessment of the intended buyer. but if you put some of those tahoe intenders in an ecoboost most would change their mind. our f150 2.7L will run rings around our 5.3 tahoe AND the seats are more comfortable.

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    Re: 2021 Chevrolet Tahoe First Drive - Bigger, bolder, better

    During the Great Recession GM dropped any thought of gaining market share and went after per unit profit. in 2011 Chevy stopped with the huge incentives(especially at the end of the calendar year AND the model year) on Tahoe. The huge discounts advertised at $14K off mostly disappeared. Sales dropped but GM started making more money on each one AND resale improved. Chevy has been protecting its Tahoe business and profit, and that has never more true under Barra.

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    Re: 2021 Chevrolet Tahoe First Drive - Bigger, bolder, better

    Quote Originally Posted by b4z View Post
    i think you are correct in your assessment of the intended buyer. but if you put some of those tahoe intenders in an ecoboost most would change their mind. our f150 2.7L will run rings around our 5.3 tahoe AND the seats are more comfortable.
    Sounds like you had a chance to see and evaluate the new Tahoe. Tell us your experience

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    Re: 2021 Chevrolet Tahoe First Drive - Bigger, bolder, better

    For me personally the most dissapointing thing about this new generation of Tahoe and Suburban is the fact that Chevrolet did not give the Z71 package any locking Diff.
    Its like a no brainer! It should have mechanical locking diff in the back and electronic in the front. What is wrong with people at GM? Just charge more and give the people what they deserve.
    This is America. Locking diffs are a right

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    Yeah, that would have been a no-brainer. I don't know, they weren't thinking about this thoroughly. I just hope they'd be able to improve on their next design.

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